Mr. Chair, they get lots of money from us, I would say to the hon. member.
In terms of the instant issue, which is what clearly we should be seized with, I can say to the hon. member that across the country, right now, not tomorrow or the next day, there is, depending upon the province, depending upon the jurisdiction, a 40% to 60% reduction in the availability of services, whether they be diagnostic services or treatment services. Of course they are triaging to do as much treatment as possible, but now treatment is starting to be affected.
I would draw to the hon. member's attention that the Canadian Medical Association had a very cogent letter to Ms. Keen which says, and this is signed by Dr. Brian Day, the President of the Canadian Medical Association, “The Canadian Medical Association joins the”--