First I will deal with the point of order from the hon. member for Vancouver East.
First of all, the motion that was moved by the hon. member for Windsor—Tecumseh goes beyond the original motion and it is not receivable. That being said, I must admit that while he put his motion there was a lot of noise close to the Chair, and I had not heard that there was a seconder, and naturally I went for the normal form that we use. But the motion is not receivable.
The hon. member for St. Catharines is rising on a different point of order.