If the hon. parliamentary secretary is rising on the same point, I do not want to get into a large debate about this because I have already ruled on this.
I have already ruled on this. What is now before the House is a matter of considerable scope.
I will stick to my earlier ruling. Members are free to talk about the motion before the House and some of the related issues about who is and who is not supporting it.
The hon. member for Oak Ridges—Markham has three minutes left and then we will move on to questions and comments.