Mr. Speaker, I would like the hon. member to clarify a couple of points.
The government now needs two parliamentary secretaries for justice. However, one of them said in committee the other day that these bills would not be the be-all and the end-all, that they were not the cure, that other things were needed. Even the Conservatives see that.
First, I know the hon. member has an urban background, which would lead her to know that much more is needed in the fight against crime and gang violence. What are those items?
Second, it was this side of the House that proposed that Bill C-14 leave this place and go to committee, not the government side. Is that not true?