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House of Commons Hansard #32 of the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was producers.

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NDP

The Deputy Speaker NDP Denise Savoie

Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

No.

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NDP

The Deputy Speaker NDP Denise Savoie

All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

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Some hon. members

Yea.

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NDP

The Deputy Speaker NDP Denise Savoie

All those opposed will please say nay.

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Some hon. members

Nay.

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NDP

The Deputy Speaker NDP Denise Savoie

In my opinion the nays have it.

And five or more members having risen:

Call in the members.

(The House divided on the motion, which was negatived on the following division:)

Vote #40

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NDP

The Deputy Speaker NDP Denise Savoie

I declare the motion lost.

Bill C-18--Notice of Time Allocation MotionMarketing Freedom for Grain Farmers ActGovernment Orders

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York—Simcoe Ontario

Conservative

Peter Van Loan ConservativeLeader of the Government in the House of Commons

Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order. As is apparent from the two motions in just an hour and a half to attempt to block debate on this issue, I would like to advise that agreement could not be reached under the provisions of Standing Orders 78(1) or 78(2) with respect to the second reading stage of Bill C-18, An Act to reorganize the Canadian Wheat Board and to make consequential and related amendments to certain Acts.

Under the provisions of Standing Order 78(3), I give notice that a minister of the Crown will propose at the next sitting a motion to allot a specific number of days or hours for the consideration and disposal of proceedings at the said stage.

For the benefit--

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Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

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NDP

The Deputy Speaker NDP Denise Savoie

Order, please. I would like to have a little order.

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Conservative

Peter Van Loan Conservative York—Simcoe, ON

For the benefit of the House, I intend to allot two additional days for second reading of the bill. Including today, this will be three full days of debate. This is a debate about a choice between providing marketing freedom for western Canadian farmers and a seven-decade monopoly. Western Canadian farmers should be able to expect us to make a yes or no decision so that we can let a committee get on with its job of studying this bill in detail.

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NDP

The Deputy Speaker NDP Denise Savoie

On a point of order, the hon. member for Malpeque.

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Liberal

Wayne Easter Liberal Malpeque, PE

On a point of order, Madam Speaker, how can the government abuse Parliament by first not allowing a vote of producers, as required under the law, and then get up and propose closure after two hours of debate? How could you allow that to happen, Madam Speaker?

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NDP

The Deputy Speaker NDP Denise Savoie

Order, please. It sounds a lot like debate to me.

The hon. member for Winnipeg North.

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Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Madam Speaker, in terms of process, it is interesting.

My question for my colleague is of a very serious nature. We have a government, and the Prime Minister

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Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

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Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

They are a little sensitive, and I can understand and appreciate why they are so sensitive on this issue.

After there is a debate, members are provided the opportunity to ask questions. I would suggest that the government would want to be a little patient so I can—

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NDP

The Deputy Speaker NDP Denise Savoie

Order, please. I am not clear if this is a point of order or a question pursuant to the intervention of the Liberal member.

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Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

It is a question, Madam Speaker, and I do not blame you for the confusion, because the government is very antsy, given the interesting reaction it had.

It is interesting to note that today we have a bill—

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NDP

The Deputy Speaker NDP Denise Savoie

Order, please. Questions and comments.

On a point of order, the hon. member for Wascana.

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Liberal

Ralph Goodale Liberal Wascana, SK

Madam Speaker, following a speech, which was the speech given by the member for Guelph, there is the normal question and comment period. That is what the member for Winnipeg North is endeavouring to do: participate in questions and comments.

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NDP

The Deputy Speaker NDP Denise Savoie

Order. I would ask for a little order so that I can hear. I assumed the member was rising on a point of order. I am now calling for questions and comments and I will proceed in that order.

The hon. Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Natural Resources and for the Canadian Wheat Board.

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Cypress Hills—Grasslands Saskatchewan

Conservative

David Anderson ConservativeParliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Natural Resources and for the Canadian Wheat Board

Madam Speaker, I was very dismayed to hear my colleague from Guelph call for an end to debate on this bill. We have waited years to debate this bill, and now the Liberals do not want to debate it. We are very confused as to why they would not want to do that.

When I heard the member speak a little earlier, it was clear that one of the reasons they do not want to speak—