Mr. Speaker, Canadians and Canadian seniors deserve the facts, which is what we have been giving. The hon. member is accusing us of planning to do things that we have clearly stated we are not going to do.
Let me provide a quote, “People are not looking at 65 any more as the natural cutoff. That has implications for all public pensions and that is something we need to discuss”. Who said that? It was the interim leader of the Liberal Party.