Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank my Liberal colleague for asking such a relevant question.
I made that point in my speech when I said that the government should be supporting community organizations that help these people turn things around instead of just punishing the guilty. I therefore already answered his question about what the NDP is advocating.
When it comes to Conservative bills, the devil is always in the details. That is why we want experts to talk about how effective these proposed changes would be.