It is working so well in other venues that what I will do is check the tapes. I have to say that at the time I saw it, I did not see the member standing; but if members say that he was standing, we can certainly examine the tapes and, if he was, we can adjust accordingly, but I did not see it at the time. I will come back to the House with that.
The hon. member for Saanich—Gulf Islands is rising on a point of order.