Mr. Speaker, actually the member is wrong. It is not because the NDP does not support the Conservative government's reforms; it is because the Prime Minister has failed to understand that in order to have the types of reforms the member is talking about, unfortunately from the Prime Minister's perspective, that obligates him to work with the provinces. He would have to get the provinces onside. The Prime Minister can stand on his pedestal and say whatever he wants, but until he recognizes that he needs to meet with all of the premiers and get them onside and maybe even do some consultation with Canadians, his position is not that much more tangible that what the NDP members are proposing to do.
Could the member tell the House how many meetings the Prime Minister has had with any of the premiers in regard to Senate reform?