Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask my colleague a question about the Liberals' famous plan for the Senate.
I do not know whether he looked at the list of senators, but while a number of them are retiring, the terms of others are not up until 2030, 2039 or 2026. Even if senators are appointed more carefully, it is still going to take at least 30 years for the Senate to be completely renewed.
Is the Liberal plan a 30-year plan?