I appreciate the intervention by the member for Saanich—Gulf Islands.
The hon. member for Carleton may recall, and for the benefit of the House actually, when the name of another member appears in a citation one cannot use the name, even if in doing so you are doing it indirectly through a citation. So even in a citation we essentially rule that out of order.
The member will then, I am sure, substitute and use the appropriate name, either the title, or the member's riding name.
The hon. member for Carleton.