Mr. Speaker, there is another fan of Phoebe Gilman's book, Something from Nothing.
Regarding the two meetings. I attended one of the meetings on January 17 with Mr. Fram, and it involved a not-for-profit organization called CAST, or Collaboration for Atlantic Salmon Tomorrow. The other meeting involving my acting chief of staff, Mr. Fram, was on January 20. It was a high-level meeting on shipbuilding. I asked him to attend on my behalf because I was in meetings in Quebec City.