Madam Speaker, I listened with great interest to the parliamentary secretary to the minister of justice, and I wonder if people who might be watching this debate recognize what has happened.
First he talked about process and then he talked about poverty, but he never really talked about substance.
The process, he said, was that it is a great day for parliamentary democracy, and then he talked about poverty and what is going on in his riding. What he did not talk about is the testimony of the former attorney general. I never heard him once say that he did not believe her.
I was there. I am the vice-chair of the committee, and I say to Canadians to watch it and believe it.
What she said, among other things, was that people in the Prime Minister's Office do not believe that politically interfering is a problem and that there may be solutions and that although they are not lawyers, there has to be one—in other words, if the rule of law was not applied.
As a fellow graduate of the same law school, is the member not ashamed of what he saw yesterday?