Mr. Speaker, the member talked about deficit spending and debt spending. If it is such a deeply rooted principle within Conservatives not to run debt, could she explain why both Brian Mulroney and Stephen Harper ran debts? Of the 19 budgets they brought in, 16 ran deficits. Could the member explain why Doug Ford continues to run debts in Ontario, and in fact is paying more to service that debt than Kathleen Wynne was previously? Why do Conservatives run debt?
In case the member does not know, I have the answer: It is because they understand the principle that as long as the economy is growing faster than debt is being taken on, it is being done in a responsible way.
Could the member at least acknowledge that every Conservative government in this House over the last 30 years has run deficits in almost every single budget?