Mr. Speaker, it is important to talk about cases of real people and their lived experiences. I know members on all sides of the House have.
The concern that anecdote gets at is that there may be cases in which counsellors are unsure about where this unclear definition is leading them. In a context that has absolutely nothing to do with conversion therapy, they might be trying to talk through what somebody is saying and experiencing and have a fear they will run afoul of the law if they ask questions of someone, who initially presents as identifying as transgender, that may in some way seem to challenge that identification.
We should have good, professional training for counsellors to ensure they are having conversations in a proper, effective way. However, we want to ensure we are not sticking in the arm of the criminal law in a way that creates a chill and maybe even an unwillingness to see or counsel people who are in these kinds of situations.