I am having a hard time hearing the answer, and I am about 20 feet away from the hon. member.
I am sure the folks down at the other end are having a harder time, so I am just going to ask the hon. members to maybe keep it down and whisper to each other. I am sure, as we get older, we have a hard time hearing, and they are shouting so that the person next to them can hear.
Believe me, it is not that bad.
The hon. minister.