House of Commons Hansard #40 of the 43rd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was chair.

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Supplementary Estimates (A), 2020-21Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

Madam Chair, I will be using my time to make a five-minute statement today and splitting it with the member for Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola and the member for Regina—Lewvan.

It's an honour to be back in the House representing my Kildonan—St. Paul constituents on the very last day of the parliamentary session. Although the Liberal government has decided to shut down Parliament during the worst crisis Canadians have faced in living memory, I will do my best to speak and advocate on their behalf with the little time we have remaining.

Unfortunately, the Prime Minister has only allowed parliamentarians four hours to debate and approve $87 billion in spending, or roughly $362 million every minute, which may be a record in the history of the Canadian Parliament.

If the member opposite were listening, he might learn something.

This is truly unprecedented. The very purpose of Parliament is to provide checks and balances on government power. If we do not have the opportunity to question the government, to study emerging issues at committee, or to put forward alternative solutions, how are we supposed to do our job and be that check on power if we are not sitting?

In effect, the government is telling Canadians that they have nothing to worry about, but that they just to trust the government, that there is no need for Parliament to meet or to provide oversight on the massive spending that's been going on for three months. Unfortunately, between the Liberals power grabs and long history of ethics violations, to say that opposition parties are skeptical would be an understatement. In fact, there has not been this great a need for parliamentary oversight since the Second World War.

The last few months have not been easy for anyone. Some have been far more severely impacted than others. Thus far, three million people have lost their jobs and 13% of the working population remains unemployed. We know that women have been impacted to a greater degree than men and that rates of human trafficking and spousal abuse have reportedly gone up. Eight thousand people have lost their lives to COVID-19, and the well-being of countless others has been impacted from the thousands of delayed surgeries and the severe mental health impacts that isolation has had on the nation.

To be a member of Parliament during this unprecedented time has been an unforgettable experience with many challenges and difficult days. Speaking with hundreds of constituents and small businesses in my community who have been deeply and negatively impacted by the pandemic has been very heartbreaking, but they will not be forgotten by the Conservative team. We are all working tirelessly on their behalf and we will represent every Canadian left behind by the government's inadequate response to the COVID-19 pandemic.

The possibility of a second wave of the pandemic is of great concern to me and the constituents of Kildonan—St. Paul, and the Liberal government, frankly, has provided very little to Canadians to give them confidence that we will be prepared and financially equipped to handle a second wave, since we barely made it through the first one. We are seeing this first-hand in the Prime Minister's refusal to provide an economic and fiscal update during this sitting, despite the Parliamentary Budget Officer's call for one.

It is critical that Canadians know whether we have any financial flexibility to extend programs before they are indeed extended. That is key. Otherwise, we are just guessing and hoping that it will all work out and that the country does not go bankrupt, which is really not a great strategy.

As one of 338 MPs and one of only 121 official opposition MPs in Canada, I ask the Liberal government with all sincerity to use its three-month hiatus from oversight and accountability to prepare tirelessly for the second wave of the COVID-19 pandemic: to prepare PPE, testing, contact tracing capacity, and whatever is necessary to give Canadians the confidence that the government can actually do this job. Beyond that, it needs to acknowledge that Canadian small businesses and the millions of Canadian workers they employ cannot afford to go back into isolation, neither financially nor for their mental health. Moreover, neither can the taxpayer afford to subsidize the pandemic response effort of nearly $100 billion per month without serious tax increases and financial consequences at the family kitchen table.

The Liberal government has the responsibility to present a plan and to communicate it effectively to Canadians, so they can prepare in the coming months. Canadians deserve answers on how prepared we are and what the financial outlook for Canada is, so I implore the government to be transparent, honest and accountable. It is its duty to Canadians.

To conclude, I sincerely thank the front-line workers in every industry in Kildonan—St. Paul, from health care workers to grocery store clerks and gas station attendants, for quickly adapting to the first wave of this pandemic and physical distancing requirements, and even organizations that, despite being forced to drastically change their daily routines, rose to the occasion in service of our community. Churches, gurdwaras, synagogues, elder care homes, grocery stores, schools and hundreds of small businesses in Kildonan—St. Paul rallied with a true Canadian spirit of resilience and innovation to get the community through the first wave of the pandemic.

That honestly gives me real hope for the second wave and whatever comes after that. I do believe we will get through this together.

Supplementary Estimates (A), 2020-21Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Madam Chair, I will be directing my questions to the Minister of Employment.

The estimates show $155 million for the Canada summer jobs program. The cost of the program is typically much more. Does this figure indicate a reduction or is it an increase to the original cost of the program?

Supplementary Estimates (A), 2020-21Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:35 p.m.

Delta B.C.

Liberal

Carla Qualtrough LiberalMinister of Employment

Madam Chair, the $155 million is the first amount that is going to be put in the estimates. The remaining, I believe, $130 million will be in the supplementary estimates in the fall once we determine exactly how many jobs were filled.

Supplementary Estimates (A), 2020-21Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Madam Chair, we are hearing from Conservative members of Parliament right across this country that their constituents are telling them that the program is underfunded. Why would this be the case?

Supplementary Estimates (A), 2020-21Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:35 p.m.

Liberal

Carla Qualtrough Liberal Delta, BC

Madam Chair, I can assure everyone in the House that the program is not in fact underfunded. We committed to fund 70,000 jobs, and that is exactly what we are going to do. In fact, this Friday, the last wave of jobs is being put in the jobs bank. I can assure everyone that this program, because of the flexibilities we introduced this year, is going to be maxed out and that's good news—

Supplementary Estimates (A), 2020-21Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:35 p.m.

NDP

Supplementary Estimates (A), 2020-21Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Madam Chair, there is $728 million for payments to support students and youth impacted by COVID-19 pursuant to the Public Health Events of National Concern Payments Act. This is a serious amount of money with zero specifics. What is this for?

Supplementary Estimates (A), 2020-21Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:35 p.m.

Liberal

Carla Qualtrough Liberal Delta, BC

Madam Chair, it is in fact part of the $9-billion commitment to support students and to create 116,000 jobs across the country through the youth employment and skills strategy.

Supplementary Estimates (A), 2020-21Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Madam Chair, what oversight will there be of this specific fund?

Supplementary Estimates (A), 2020-21Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:35 p.m.

Liberal

Carla Qualtrough Liberal Delta, BC

Madam Chair, I can assure the member opposite that we are making sure that every dollar invested in these jobs goes to good quality work experiences for students to gain skills and experience and for them to contribute the way we know they want to.

Supplementary Estimates (A), 2020-21Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Madam Chair, without specifics, it's very hard for us to do anything other than to consider it a slush fund.

Moving on, what is the $37 million for funding to increase old age security workload capacity?

Supplementary Estimates (A), 2020-21Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:35 p.m.

Liberal

Carla Qualtrough Liberal Delta, BC

I believe, Madam Chair, that is because the number of seniors that we are paying through OAS has increased and because of the cost of living increase that seniors got through the OAS.

Supplementary Estimates (A), 2020-21Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Madam Chair, the youth employment and skills strategy was promised a $153.7-million increase, but in these estimates, it only shows a $5.25-million boost. Why is this the case?

Supplementary Estimates (A), 2020-21Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:35 p.m.

Liberal

Carla Qualtrough Liberal Delta, BC

Madam Chair, I can assure you that everything we promised to spend through the youth employment and skills strategy will be spent on good quality summer job experiences for young people. In fact, those experiences will go into next February as a result of the flexibilities we introduced.

Supplementary Estimates (A), 2020-21Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

June 17th, 2020 / 4:35 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Madam Chair, I will give the minister another opportunity. Why is it the case there is only $5.25 million for this program?

Supplementary Estimates (A), 2020-21Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:35 p.m.

Liberal

Carla Qualtrough Liberal Delta, BC

Madam Chair, I believe, and I will follow up with the member if I am wrong, that we have parcelled out the youth employment and skills strategy through a number of budget items on this and we can add them all up. I can get him the math. I apologize that I do not have it all in my head, but it is all reflected in these main estimates in detail.

Supplementary Estimates (A), 2020-21Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

I would appreciate getting those details, Madam Chair.

The government announced $9.2 million for agricultural jobs under this program, but the program is only getting $5.25 million. How is this possible?

Supplementary Estimates (A), 2020-21Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

Carla Qualtrough Liberal Delta, BC

Madam Chair, I can assure you that we announced that we would employ 7,000 young people across the country in agricultural jobs, and that is exactly what we are doing. We had some money already that was going to be moved from agriculture and, as a result, we only had to spend this much money to deliver that many jobs.

Supplementary Estimates (A), 2020-21Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Madam Chair, similarly, the student work placement program is getting $5 million despite $80 million being promised. What is going on here?

Supplementary Estimates (A), 2020-21Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

Carla Qualtrough Liberal Delta, BC

Madam Chair, this $5 million will allow us to reach our overall goal of 85,000 work placements. We will put the remainder of the money, as I said in the first answer, in the supplementary estimates when we have a better understanding of exactly how much money—

Supplementary Estimates (A), 2020-21Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:40 p.m.

NDP

The Deputy Chair NDP Carol Hughes

The hon. member for Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola has 18 seconds left.

Supplementary Estimates (A), 2020-21Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Madam Chair, does the minister not understand that when members of Parliament review the estimates and have these questions in their minds, if the government is not clear on them, we are not mind readers. I would hope the government would be more forthcoming on these programs and in letting us know.

Supplementary Estimates (A), 2020-21Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

Carla Qualtrough Liberal Delta, BC

Madam Chair, we have to understand that in this pandemic we have made major announcements that will be reflected in supplementary estimates, as we deliver these programs over the coming weeks and months.

Members will have better, stronger data at that point.

Supplementary Estimates (A), 2020-21Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Warren Steinley Conservative Regina—Lewvan, SK

Madam Chair, I will be opening with a few comments and ending with a round of questions.

This is my first opportunity to be in the chamber since the pandemic struck in March, and I am happy to be here to represent my constituents in Regina—Lewvan. They have had a lot of questions over the last 12 weeks and want to know exactly what the government's plan is to re-launch our economy, and these estimates are going to be a big part of that.

As a member of the public accounts committee, I was wondering if any of the funding in these supplementary estimates is going toward ensuring that the Auditor General's office has the funding it needs to do audits after COVID-19 is over.

Supplementary Estimates (A), 2020-21Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:40 p.m.

Québec Québec

Liberal

Jean-Yves Duclos LiberalPresident of the Treasury Board

Madam Chair, I am pleased that the member suggests the important role of the Auditor General. We are pleased with her new nomination, and, as she knows fully well and is worth repeating, we are there to support her important work.