I appreciate the hon. member's point of order. In fact, I think we are getting into an area of debate here.
We have expired the time, and I appreciate the patience of all hon. members when we are doing this in this hybrid format.
We will go to the hon. member for Mission—Matsqui—Fraser Canyon, if he did have a response to the last intervention. It was framed as a point of order, but in light of the fact that it was in the realm of debate, I will see if he wants to take 30 seconds to respond. Then we will go to resuming debate.