Before I go to resuming debate, I want to mention something that has happened a couple of times today, when individuals who are attending virtually have put their hands up while they are on the telephone. That takes away time from other individuals who want to ask questions. I would just recommend that if a member plans to put their hand up, please do not be on the phone because it does take time to be excused from that call.
Resuming debate, the hon. member for Oshawa.