Madam Speaker, the relevance of the point that the member has mentioned is that it dealt with individuals who were found in contempt of this place. Individuals failing to follow an order of the House may be found by the House to be in contempt.
One of the issues at hand is that we had ministers of the crown interfere with an order of this House by instructing witnesses, who had been ordered by this place to appear at committee, not to appear. The comparison between what may be found in contempt, with the example given by the member of Louis Riel, and the potential for contempt by ministers of the crown to have openly and publicly stated in written form that they instructed individuals to defy an order of the House is certainly—