Madam Speaker, I listened closely to the hon. member's remarks, and he talked about history.
The Harper government began with a surplus. The previous Liberal government left, I think, $13 billion at the time. Therefore, it started off really well with a surplus to manage. Also, I checked the record. Under Harper, for the nine years that the Conservatives were in government, not a single year's unemployment rate went below 6%. However, we saw the constant dropping of the unemployment rate under the Trudeau government prior to the pandemic, and now we are seeing five point something per cent as a new norm for Canada. I think we have done quite well.
By the way, the real debt-to-GDP ratio for the federal government is 31%, which was just released in the public accounts.
Which program is the hon. member proposing to cut, perhaps in an amendment, that he thinks is a waste of money—