Order, please.
I just ruled on this a few minutes ago for the minister, and now the minister is doing exactly what I asked somebody not to do. I know the ministers want to ensure they are role models in the House. I ask them to hold their discussions and thoughts until the appropriate time.
I would also ask opposition members not to engage in discussions, especially when I am speaking.
Resuming debate, the hon. member for Pitt Meadows—Maple Ridge.