House of Commons Hansard #45 of the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was travel.

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Opposition Motion—Federal Vaccine MandatesBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

5 p.m.

Conservative

Laila Goodridge Conservative Fort McMurray—Cold Lake, AB

Madam Speaker, one of the things we saw early in this pandemic was that rather than having domestic production of vaccines, the Liberal-NDP coalition decided to raid the COVAX group and take away from countries that desperately needed it. What I would like to see, and what members on this side of the House would like to see, is an improvement in being able to produce more vaccines domestically so that we have a little more protection when it comes to the future of Canada's health.

Opposition Motion—Federal Vaccine MandatesBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

5 p.m.

Bloc

Marilène Gill Bloc Manicouagan, QC

Madam Speaker, I thank my colleague from Fort McMurray—Cold Lake for her speech.

The pandemic is constantly evolving and the sixth wave is under way, although it has not quite hit Canada yet. I think it is a little simplistic to say that, because there is no plan or a vote on a plan, all the restrictions should just be lifted.

Would the Conservative motion also presume that there is some flexibility and options if the situation were to evolve? I agree that there should be a plan, even though we have not seen one yet.

What does my colleague think? I would rather see some nuance, rather than getting caught up in stereotypes.

Opposition Motion—Federal Vaccine MandatesBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

5 p.m.

Conservative

Laila Goodridge Conservative Fort McMurray—Cold Lake, AB

Madam Speaker, I think my colleague raised some important points. We do not know everything about the pandemic and do not know what will happen tomorrow. That is true of life in general.

I do not think that there is any real justification for federal restrictions and mandates right now. These mandates should be lifted today.

Opposition Motion—Federal Vaccine MandatesBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

5 p.m.

Conservative

Gérard Deltell Conservative Louis-Saint-Laurent, QC

Madam Speaker, I am very pleased to be participating in this debate and also to be speaking after the member for Fort McMurray—Cold Lake. As Quebeckers and other francophones just heard, the member from Alberta, who represents one of the most oil rich ridings in the country, speaks impeccable French.

It is late in the day, and we are gathered here to ask the Government of Canada to do what all the other Canadian governments have done and that is to lift the COVID-19 mandates for Canadians. When I say all the other Canadian governments, I am not referring to previous governments, but to the current governments of the 10 Canadian provinces. Ours is a big and beautiful country. We have British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Ontario, Quebec, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island and Newfoundland and Labrador. Ten out of ten provinces have decided to lift COVID-19 mandates.

Some provinces, like Saskatchewan, lifted them some time ago. Others, such as Quebec, are moving in that direction and will lift all measures by April 15. It is coming. Other provinces also have plans. Thus, all 10 provinces are on the same page. It is now time to lift vaccine mandates. All governments agree except for the central, federal NDP-Liberal government. That is unfortunate.

These people keep saying that we need to listen to and follow the science. I would say that they were following the political science when they called an election at the beginning of the fourth wave of the pandemic. They ignored everything that Dr. Tam had said on the Wednesday and then called an election on the Sunday. What happened to those people who were crowing about the principle of science? Why did they then call an election? What principle was behind that idea? They were operating on the principle that public servants absolutely had to be vaccinated. There was not a single scientific study proving that this was necessary. The same thing happened after the election, when the mandate was extended to truckers. There was no scientific evidence for this.

However, 10 public health officials in the 10 provinces have each decided that the restrictions could be lifted in their province. All 10 of them did. Not nine, not eight, not six out of 10, but every single one of them, from coast to coast. The NDP‑Liberal government refuses to recognize what the provinces are doing and, most importantly, refuses to do what all of the provinces have done. It is unfortunate.

I want to be clear. Canadians have suffered a lot over the past two years. We have all suffered as a result of COVID‑19. Some people lost family members or loved ones, and our thoughts are with them. Others have faced serious mental health challenges. We all know someone who experienced setbacks, challenges and upheaval when confronted with isolation.

Other people missed out on some of the best experiences life has to offer. I will not go into detail, but suffice it to say I experienced the joy of becoming a grandparent during COVID‑19 not once but twice. I got to see my granddaughters, but my parents did not get to see them as much as they would have liked. My parents are 97 and 98 years old, and they did not get to see their great-granddaughters, who will soon be 23 months old and seven weeks old, respectively, as much as they wanted. COVID‑19 caused all Canadian families to suffer, some a lot and some less so, but we have all had to live with COVID‑19.

When the time comes to lift restrictions, obviously that has to be informed by science. That is why the provinces did it. That is why I do not understand why this federal Liberal-NDP government is refusing to do what scientists in 10 out of 10 provinces agreed to do on the basis of science.

Let me be clear. I am a Conservative and a Canadian, and I am proud of that. My party was the first to raise the issue of COVID in January 2020. I remember the hon. member for Edmonton Riverbend was the first to raise the issue here in the House, in January two years ago. Ours was the first party to raise the issue of restricting the border to address this. We were the first. We were the first to ask for a vaccination system and to provide vaccines to Canadians. We were the first to talk about rapid tests.

As a Conservative, I am very proud to fight for that. As a Conservative, I am very proud to have followed all the rules.

I am a Conservative, and I got not one, not two but three doses. As a Canadian, I am proud to have my vaccine passport with me at all times. Did I enjoy having to show it every time? Of course not, but we got through it.

I was also very proud to wear a mask, which I still wear today, by the way. There is nothing to be ashamed of; on the contrary. I am very proud to wash my hands 25 times a day. I was already doing that anyway, but that is another story. Finally, I am very proud, in a way, to respect social distancing.

We all learned these words during the pandemic. However, the time has come to move on. That is where we are right now.

I mentioned earlier that the current government has made several big mistakes, such as calling an election in the middle of a pandemic, forcing public servants to be vaccinated without scientific evidence and other things like that.

However, what this government has lacked the most is respect. Unfortunately, there is no vaccine to correct this government's lack of respect, especially the lack of respect shown by the head of state.

The Prime Minister is our Prime Minister especially when we have to address a crisis like the one we have had in the last two years. The first responsibility of our Prime Minister is to let people work together, to unite us and to face and address the situation. However, what did the Prime Minister do? He fought Canadians, he divided Canadians and he wedged Canadians. That is exactly what the Prime Minister should never do, but that is exactly what he has done in the last two years.

That is why we are quite saddened to see that, two years into the pandemic, while leaders around the world and in our 10 provinces have decided to set aside the health measures, the federal government is alone in refusing to follow the science and the recommendations.

It was sad today to see our party put more than 20 question to the Minister of Health, a man for whom I have a great deal of respect and esteem. He is the member for Québec, which makes him one of my neighbours, as is the member for Louis-Hébert.

I have to say that over the past few months, I have appreciated the observations and comments of my colleague from Louis-Hébert. Unfortunately, it does not seem to be having much influence on his neighbour, the member for Québec. He should have paid more attention to the comments of the member for Louis-Hébert, who said that the Prime Minister had unfortunately decided to divide Canadians and call an election on the principle of mandatory vaccination.

What was the response we got today from the Minister of Health, whom I respect and hold in high regard?

The minister came out with all sorts of numbers, as the deputy leader of the official opposition and member for Mégantic—L'Érable said. The minister cited an unending slew of numbers.

Speaking of numbers, let us talk about the number 10. In Canada, 10 out of 10 provinces believe the same thing: It is time to lift the health measures. Why is the Minister of Health not listening? Why does he not realize what is happening?

People are saying that the situation is not the same in Europe and they are quite right. Every country has its own reality and its own challenges. Every country is faced with the fact that people can travel from one country to another and spread COVID-19 to some extent.

However, Canada has 10 provinces, 10 health ministers and 10 public health officers. Ten governments have decided to lift restrictions and mandates. We hope that the current federal government will follow the lead of the 10 Canadian provinces, do the right thing and let Canadians lead a better life in the current situation.

Opposition Motion—Federal Vaccine MandatesBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

5:10 p.m.

Liberal

Francis Scarpaleggia Liberal Lac-Saint-Louis, QC

Madam Speaker, it is always a great pleasure to listen to my colleague. He is a great orator here in the House. I think he has already been recognized as the best new MP in the House.

I would like to ask him the following question. Does my colleague believe that someone who arrives from overseas who is not vaccinated or who received a less effective vaccine than Pfizer or Moderna is a greater threat to the Canadian community than a traveller who enters the country and is fully vaccinated with recognized vaccines such as Pfizer or Moderna?

Opposition Motion—Federal Vaccine MandatesBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Gérard Deltell Conservative Louis-Saint-Laurent, QC

Madam Speaker, I am very happy to hear from my colleague from Lac-Saint-Louis. I have a lot of respect for him and had the opportunity to get to know him when we worked together on electoral reform. Who knows what happened with that, but he was a very good chair.

As a Canadian, I am very proud that our country has one of the highest vaccination rates in the world. I am proud to go out with my vaccine passport and to have gotten three shots. I have no problem with that and am very proud of it. I am very proud that Canadians are among the most vaccinated and that our country was among the best at following the rules. We should be boasting about this achievement, not using it to divide the country, like this government is doing.

Opposition Motion—Federal Vaccine MandatesBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

5:10 p.m.

Bloc

Christine Normandin Bloc Saint-Jean, QC

Madam Speaker, these health restrictions exist in large part because the health care system is in shambles and cannot keep up with demand.

I want to take this opportunity to acknowledge those who work in health care, and, in particular, my best friend Stéphanie, who is a special education instructor. By day, she works with people who have lost their independence, such as seniors and people with cognitive problems. She does a good job and has very difficult, busy days. By night, she puts on her personal support worker hat and works another full shift for the health care system because it is in shambles and there is not enough staff. I truly admire her.

We would not be in this position if the health care system had had proper funding, and I would like to hear—

Opposition Motion—Federal Vaccine MandatesBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès) Liberal Alexandra Mendes

Order. I am very sorry, but unfortunately we have to stop there because we are out of time.

It being 5:15 p.m. and the last allotted day for the supply period ending March 26, it is my duty to interrupt the proceedings and put forthwith every question to dispose of the business of supply.

The question is on the motion.

May I dispense?

Opposition Motion—Federal Vaccine MandatesBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

5:15 p.m.

Some hon. members

No.

Opposition Motion—Federal Vaccine MandatesBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès) Liberal Alexandra Mendes

[Chair read text of motion to House]

Opposition Motion—Federal Vaccine MandatesBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès) Liberal Alexandra Mendes

If a member of a recognized party present in the House wishes to request a recorded division or that the motion be adopted on division, I would invite them to rise and indicate it to the Chair.

The hon. member for Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands and Rideau Lakes.

Opposition Motion—Federal Vaccine MandatesBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

5:15 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Barrett Conservative Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands and Rideau Lakes, ON

Madam Speaker, I request a recorded division, please.

Opposition Motion—Federal Vaccine MandatesBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

5:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès) Liberal Alexandra Mendes

Call in the members.

(The House divided on the motion, which was negatived on the following division:)

Vote #41

Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

6 p.m.

Conservative

The Deputy Speaker Conservative Chris d'Entremont

I declare the motion defeated.

Supplementary Estimates (C), 2021-22Government Orders

6 p.m.

Ottawa—Vanier Ontario

Liberal

Mona Fortier LiberalPresident of the Treasury Board

moved:

That the Supplementary Estimates (C) for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2022, be concurred in.

Supplementary Estimates (C), 2021-22Government Orders

6 p.m.

Conservative

The Deputy Speaker Conservative Chris d'Entremont

If a member of a recognized party present in the House wishes to request a recorded division or that the motion be adopted on division, I invite them to rise and indicate it to the Chair.

Supplementary Estimates (C), 2021-22Government Orders

6 p.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Mr. Speaker, I would request a recorded vote.

(The House divided on the motion, which was agreed to on the following division:)

Vote #42

Supplementary Estimates (C), 2021-22Government Orders

6:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Deputy Speaker Conservative Chris d'Entremont

I declare the motion carried.

Supplementary Estimates (C), 2021-22Government Orders

6:15 p.m.

Liberal

Mona Fortier Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

moved that Bill C-15, An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money for the federal public administration for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2022, be now read the first time and printed.

(Motion deemed adopted and bill read the first time)

Supplementary Estimates (C), 2021-22Government Orders

6:15 p.m.

Liberal

Mona Fortier Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

moved that the bill be read the second time and referred to a committee of the whole.

Supplementary Estimates (C), 2021-22Government Orders

6:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Deputy Speaker Conservative Chris d'Entremont

If a member of a recognized party present in the House wishes to request a recorded division or that the motion be adopted on division, I would invite them to rise and indicate it to the Chair.

The hon. member for Gatineau.

Supplementary Estimates (C), 2021-22Government Orders

6:15 p.m.

Liberal

Steven MacKinnon Liberal Gatineau, QC

Mr. Speaker, this being the start of spring, I think you will find unanimous consent to apply the results from the previous vote to this vote with Liberal members voting yes.

Supplementary Estimates (C), 2021-22Government Orders

6:15 p.m.

Conservative

Blaine Calkins Conservative Red Deer—Lacombe, AB

Mr. Speaker, the Conservatives agree to apply and we will be voting nay.