Debates of June 7th, 2022

Church Attack in Nigeria

[Some hon. members]

Nay.

The House resumed from June 6 consideration of Bill C-19, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on April 7, 2022 and other measures, as reported (with amendment) from the committee, and of the motions in Group No. 1.

Budget Implementation Act, 2022, No. 1

[The Speaker, Liberal, Anthony Rota]

It being 3:20 p.m., pursuant to an order made on Thursday, November 25, 2022, the House will now proceed to the taking of the deferred recorded division at the report stage of Bill C-19.

The question is on Motion No. 1. A vote on this motion also applies to Motion No. 2.

(The House divided on Motion No. 1, which was negatived on the following division:)

Vote #122

[The Speaker, Liberal, Anthony Rota]

I declare Motion No. 1 defeated.

The hon. member for Perth—Wellington is rising on a point of order.

Decorum

[John Nater, Conservative, Perth—Wellington, ON]

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point or order. I would draw your attention to paragraph 489 of Beauchesne's Parliamentary Rules and Forms, sixth edition, as well as page 3760 of Debates, February 18, 1970, concerning the unparliamentary language used in this place.

Immediately prior to this vote, the Minister of Crown-Indigenous Relations, in reference to the member for Windsor West, on two separate occasions, used unparliamentary language. One is the one referred to at page 3760 of Debates, and the other is the French translation of the word “seal”, which is entirely inappropriate for the House.

It offends the dignity of the House, and the member owes an apology to the House and to the member for Windsor West.

[The Speaker, Liberal, Anthony Rota]

This hon. parliamentary secretary to the government House leader is rising on the same point of order.

[Kevin Lamoureux, Liberal, Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons]

Mr. Speaker, being somewhat familiar with Beauchesne's sixth edition, what is important is that any word used in the House is not necessarily parliamentary or unparliamentary. It depends on the context in which it was stated, and I would suggest to you that at the very—

[Some hon. members]

Oh, oh!

[The Speaker, Liberal, Anthony Rota]

Order.

I will let the hon. parliamentary secretary continue.

[Kevin Lamoureux, Liberal, Winnipeg North, MB]

Mr. Speaker, if members want, we can be very much standing on our feet, talking about things that are being heckled back and forth from both sides of the House. I would suggest to the members that one does not throw stones in glass houses.

[The Speaker, Liberal, Anthony Rota]

What we will do is we will go to Hansard and go over it to see what was said and if we can find something.

Does the hon. minister want to rise?

[Marc Miller, Liberal, Minister of Crown-Indigenous Relations]

Mr. Speaker, I did more than want to rise. I did rise.

If I used unparliamentary language, I am glad to apologize. What I did say to the member opposite is that if he wants to call me out in the House of Commons, he can at least have the decency to come see me before that. There are plenty of opportunities.

If we are going to have a debate on the substance of this, Mr. Speaker, I think you should understand the motivations for the words that I did express, but if the member has the intellectual integrity to want support for his bill, he can come up and ask me to support it.

I told him to get off his ass. If that is unparliamentary, I apologize.

[Some hon. members]

Oh, oh!

[The Speaker, Liberal, Anthony Rota]

Order.

The hon. member for Windsor West is rising, I believe on the same point of order.

[Brian Masse, NDP, Windsor West, ON]

Mr. Speaker, I will make this simple. If that is the conduct of the minister in a situation like this, I do not want an apology.

[Some hon. members]

Oh, oh!

[The Speaker, Liberal, Anthony Rota]

Order.

We will review the Hansard and come back to the House with our findings. In the meantime, I want to remind all members on both sides of the House to be very judicious when they use words. Words can have different meanings and different feelings can come out to different people.

The House resumed consideration of Bill C-19, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on April 7, 2022 and other measures, as reported (with amendment) from the committee, and of the motions in Group No. 1.

Budget Implementation Act, 2022, No. 1

[The Speaker, Liberal, Anthony Rota]

Please be considerate to each other.

The question is on Motion No. 3. A vote on this motion also applies to Motions Nos. 6 to 43.

A negative vote on Motion No. 3 requires the question to be put on Motion No. 4.

The hon. government whip is rising.

[Steven MacKinnon, Liberal, Gatineau, QC]

Mr. Speaker, if you seek it, I believe you will find agreement to apply the results of the previous vote to this vote, with Liberal members voting no.

[Blaine Calkins, Conservative, Red Deer—Lacombe, AB]

Mr. Speaker, Conservatives agree to apply and will be voting yes.

[Claude DeBellefeuille, Bloc, Salaberry—Suroît, QC]

Mr. Speaker, the Bloc Québécois agrees to apply the vote and will be voting in favour of the motion.

[Rachel Blaney, NDP, North Island—Powell River, BC]

Mr. Speaker, the NDP agree to apply and will be voting no.

[Mike Morrice, Green, Kitchener Centre, ON]

Mr. Speaker, the Greens agree to apply and will be voting no.