Mr. Speaker, whether it is a point of order or a point of debate, I think that is something that is always good to clarify.
With regard to the senators that have been appointed, there is a process that all senators have to do. Here in Ontario, there are members appointed by the Conservative provincial government, which appoints members to put forward names for the Senate process, along with federal representatives. They do it together in collaboration. That list goes forward as an independent process that happens here in the province of Ontario.
I know independence is a foreign word to my opposition friends and colleagues, but independence it is.
The Senate is a place for sober second thought. It is doing its job. It should do it judiciously and diligently and move forward.