We are judging artistic capacity here.
The hon. member for Brandon—Souris has the floor.
House of Commons Hansard #266 of the 44th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was ukraine.
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Bill C-59—Proposal to Apply Standing Order 69.1 Andrew Scheer raises a point of order arguing Bill C-59 is an omnibus bill that should be divided for voting under Standing Order 69.1. He contends it contains unrelated measures and its main purpose is not budget implementation, citing previous rulings. He proposes dividing the bill into multiple thematic groupings for separate votes. 1600 words, 10 minutes.
Canada-Ukraine Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act, 2023 Report stage of Bill C-57. The bill is concurred in at report stage and moved to third reading; subsequent debate is dominated by procedural points of order about a Liberal MP's remarks on Conservative party votes. 900 words, 10 minutes.
Canada-Ukraine Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act, 2023 Third reading of Bill C-57. The bill implements the Canada-Ukraine Free Trade Agreement. Liberals support it, arguing it is vital for Ukraine and criticizing Conservatives' opposition, which they link to the US MAGA movement. Conservatives oppose primarily due to carbon pricing language, calling it a "poison pill" and asserting principled opposition, while criticizing Liberal actions they say harmed Ukraine. Bloc and NDP support the bill but raise concerns about ISDS and the negotiation process. 18300 words, 2 hours in 2 segments: 1 2.
Ways and Means Motion No. 19—Speaker's Ruling The Speaker rules on a point of order challenging the admissibility of Ways and Means Motion No. 19 and Bill C-59. The Official Opposition argued the motion/bill is substantially the same as two private members' bills already in committee, violating the same question rule. The Speaker finds Bill C-59 is broader in scope and not substantially similar, allowing it to proceed. 1500 words.
Fall Economic Statement Implementation Act, 2023 Second reading of Bill C-59. The bill C-59 implements certain provisions of the 2023 budget and fall economic statement. Debate focuses on its impact, with Conservatives arguing it adds inflationary deficits and is "false advertising" by funding bureaucracy instead of promised programs like affordable housing or a school food program, contributing to high costs and housing unaffordability. 15300 words, 2 hours.
Canadian Aviation Regulations Members debate Motion No. 96 concerning alleged shortfalls in Canadian aviation regulations for airport rescue and firefighting. Issues discussed include response times and the rescue mandate. Some Members argue for urgent action to align with international standards, while others contend the matter requires further study at committee. 6300 words, 1 hour.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès) Alexandra Mendes
We are judging artistic capacity here.
The hon. member for Brandon—Souris has the floor.
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Conservative
Larry Maguire Conservative Brandon—Souris, MB
Madam Speaker, the member across the way for Winnipeg North has challenged the Speaker's ruling.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès) Alexandra Mendes
I think the hon. member was trying to see if tradition overrides the Standing Orders, if I understand correctly the point the hon. parliamentary secretary was making.
Alleged Breach of Standing Order 18Points of OrderGovernment Orders
Winnipeg North Manitoba
Liberal
Kevin Lamoureux LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons
Madam Speaker, I talk about traditions, and all one needs to do is take a look at question periods. In the debates I have witnessed, the way in which members have voted is constantly being reflected on.
All I am asking is for some clarity, and I do not think clarity can be decided instantaneously. It is something that should be brought back and thought through, because it is a very important ruling you need to make, Madam Speaker, given the very nature of what I am asking for.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès) Alexandra Mendes
It will be taken under advisement because it has been raised.
The hon. member for Mission—Matsqui—Fraser Canyon.
Alleged Breach of Standing Order 18Points of OrderGovernment Orders
December 12th, 2023 / 11:35 a.m.
Conservative
Brad Vis Conservative Mission—Matsqui—Fraser Canyon, BC
Madam Speaker, Standing Order 11(b) says, “In the event of a member disregarding an order of the Chair made pursuant to paragraph (a) of this section, the Speaker shall order the removal of the member.”
Not only did the member for Winnipeg North disregard your order, but he then went on to state that the Standing Orders were not relevant. The Standing Orders under the Parliament of Canada Act are the rules by which we govern democracy in Canada. They are relevant.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès) Alexandra Mendes
I take the hon. member's point. That is exactly why I stated what I did.
I invite the hon. parliamentary secretary to go back to his speech and avoid creating more dissension.
Ben Lobb Conservative Huron—Bruce, ON
Madam Speaker, I would ask the parliamentary secretary to retract his comments and apologize. If he does not want to, then I suggest we move on to the next speaker and continue debate.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès) Alexandra Mendes
Since we are taking his comments on the standing order under advisement, I will not be able to proceed with that, but I did invite the hon. member to retract his comments.
The House resumed consideration of the motion that Bill C-57, An Act to implement the 2023 Free Trade Agreement between Canada and Ukraine, be read the third time and passed.
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Winnipeg North Manitoba
Liberal
Kevin Lamoureux LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons
Madam Speaker, if at any point it was interpreted that I was challenging the ruling of the Chair, I apologize for that.
I am glad the Speaker has recognized the very serious nature of what the Conservatives are suggesting by implementing that standing order because it will have a very profound effect on many speeches, not only today but well into the future. I suspect it will be referred to well into the future until the rule is changed. I suggest it is a dated rule and one taken out of context only because members opposite are against the Canada-Ukraine free trade agreement, which is not a reflection on the vote. It is very clear that the Conservatives do not support the Canada-Ukraine free trade agreement.
We remember the voting marathon and voting line by line. We also remember the leader of the Conservative Party saying last week that Conservatives were going to keep the government working until Christmas, that they were going to fight the government over the price on pollution and keep Liberals voting endlessly. There were 30-plus hours of voting. That was the energy of the leader of the Conservative Party.
What ended up happening? When midnight approached, a good portion of Conservatives decided to have a nap and did not necessarily participate in the proceedings. Some caused a great deal of concern. When we voted line by line, we saw the true colours of the Conservative Party on a couple of motions. One was on funding to reinforce Canada's support for Ukraine, better known as Operation Unifier. Canadians would have been shocked to see the manner in which the Conservatives dealt with that particular issue. People would be shocked—
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès) Alexandra Mendes
The hon. member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan is rising on a point of order.
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Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
Madam Speaker, a moment ago the member was reflecting on the presence or absence of members at the end of last week. That is very clearly against the rules. The member is not new and knows that reflecting on the presence or absence of particular members is against the rules. I hope he will bring himself to order.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès) Alexandra Mendes
I would remind the hon. member that referring to the presence or absence of members is against the rules.
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Liberal
Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB
Madam Speaker, for clarification, if one were to say that 40% of the Conservative caucus was not present for 45% of the votes, would that be against the rules, as I am not talking about an individual?
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès) Alexandra Mendes
It is saying indirectly what members cannot say directly, so I would remind the hon. member that he cannot make those implications.
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Liberal
Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB
Madam Speaker, I apologize for having an effect on the sensitivities of the Conservatives on this issue.
As I said, Canadians would be very surprised and disappointed because of what we have witnessed, not only today but also the other day during the voting marathon, of the Conservative Party being influenced by MAGA from the deep south in the United States, where there is a movement that is very real and tangible and is being ushered into Canada through the leader of the Conservative Party. We see that the positions Conservatives are taking are now starting to impact Canadian public policy, to the degree that they are detrimental to our communities.
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Conservative
Brad Vis Conservative Mission—Matsqui—Fraser Canyon, BC
Madam Speaker, on a point of order, it goes without saying that Canada is a sovereign nation. For a member to suggest that we are influenced by certain—
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Jennifer O'Connell
Debate.
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Conservative
Brad Vis Conservative Mission—Matsqui—Fraser Canyon, BC
No.
Madam Speaker, when the member brings into question whether Canada is being influenced by a foreign government on certain policies—
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Liberal
Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB
Madam Speaker, on the point of order, I am concerned that, through points of order, the Conservative Party of Canada, the so-called freedom party, is trying to limit and censor what I am saying in the House. I find that—
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès) Alexandra Mendes
That is debate.
I invite the hon. parliamentary secretary to continue his speech.
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Liberal
Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB
Madam Speaker, I was explaining that we have the MAGA Conservative who has actually infiltrated the leader of the Conservative Party's office. We see that—
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès) Alexandra Mendes
I have another point of order from the hon. member for Mission—Matsqui—Fraser Canyon.