Debates of Dec. 4th, 2023

Consideration of Government Business No. 31

[The Assistant Deputy Speaker, NDP, Carol Hughes]

I just want to remind the hon. member that—

[Some hon. members]

Oh, oh!

[The Assistant Deputy Speaker, NDP, Carol Hughes]

Order. I want to remind the hon. member that there are different interpretations of certain words. Obviously it has caused some disorder in the House. I would ask the member to please withdraw the comment that he made that the hon. member wanted to fight him.

Again, I will give the member the opportunity to do that, so that we can get on with the debate.

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

Madam Speaker, I will continue, but I have a right to speak in this House. I do not need to step outside. I will not step outside when I have the right, unless you, Madam Speaker want me to leave the House. I will not—

[The Assistant Deputy Speaker, NDP, Carol Hughes]

As opposed to the hon. member attempting to provide an explanation, I am just asking him to withdraw the comment that he made so that he can go on with his speech.

The hon. member for Timmins—James Bay.

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

Madam Speaker, I have a right to speak in this House. If you do not believe I have a right to speak, then you should make a ruling. He told me to step outside over something—

[The Assistant Deputy Speaker, NDP, Carol Hughes]

Order.

The hon. member was asked to withdraw his comment. I am asking him to withdraw the comment so that he can continue on with his speech.

The hon. member for Timmins—James Bay.

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

Madam Speaker, I think I made it very clear. I was told to step outside. I will not step outside.

If you want me to step outside, then you can—

[The Assistant Deputy Speaker, NDP, Carol Hughes]

The hon. member mentioned that the hon. member was asking him to step out to fight. That is not what was said in the House. It was not an interpretation. I would just ask him to please withdraw that.

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

Madam Speaker, my interpretation, when someone says “step outside” is to step outside to fight. That is my—

[The Assistant Deputy Speaker, NDP, Carol Hughes]

I have shut the hon. member's mic off. It is not about the explanation and it is not about the interpretation, it is about the word that he had used and the comment that he made. I would just ask him to please withdraw the comment.

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

Madam Speaker, I will ask you one thing. When this harassment continues tonight, will you at least stand for me? I do not mind withdrawing a comment, but every time I speak—

[The Assistant Deputy Speaker, NDP, Carol Hughes]

The hon. member knows full well that he can raise a point of order at any time, as well. I have asked him to withdraw the comment, and I would ask him to, please, respectfully withdraw the comment.

[Bardish Chagger, Liberal, Waterloo, ON]

Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order. I just want to say that, as somebody who is on this side, hearing the conversation, first of all, as you were speaking, there are members from the other side who are basically intimidating the member to stop him from speaking. The comments that were shared, and the tone in which they came, were inappropriate.

The last time the opposition House leader came running out, just to make sure he was interrupted. Time and time again, whether it is in committee or in this House, we see Conservatives stand up any time that member speaks. That is harassment. That is bullying at its best. It should not be tolerated in this House.

[Jeremy Patzer, Conservative, Cypress Hills—Grasslands, SK]

Madam Speaker, on that very point of order, the hon. member for Timmins—James Bay was warned multiple times in committee to watch the language that he was using because of what he was alleging was going on. He has been subbed out of this committee for the last three meetings because of his misogynistic behaviour, and the fact that it was the week—

[The Assistant Deputy Speaker, NDP, Carol Hughes]

Members on both sides of the House are getting to a point where I will have to ask everyone to withdraw their statements.

I have asked the hon. member for Timmins—James Bay to withdraw his statement. If he does not wish to do so, I will resume debate with another speaker.

The hon. member for Timmins—James Bay.

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

Madam Speaker, someone asked me to step out and I am being intimidated. I will not be intimidated. You can have me removed if you want, but I will speak for my right to be heard. Every time I speak, I am shut down by Conservatives.

[The Assistant Deputy Speaker, NDP, Carol Hughes]

We have another point of order, from the hon. member for Calgary Forest Lawn.

[Jasraj Singh Hallan, Conservative, Calgary Forest Lawn, AB]

Madam Speaker, you have asked more than seven or eight times for the member to withdraw his comments. This fake feminist refuses to sit down.

Now I am being shouted down.

[Some hon. members]

Oh, oh!

[The Assistant Deputy Speaker, NDP, Carol Hughes]

Order. This is the last time I will ask the hon. member for Timmins—James Bay to withdraw his comment. If he does not wish to do so, I will resume debate with the next speaker.

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

Is calling me a fake feminist okay, Madam Speaker? You can have me removed.

[The Assistant Deputy Speaker, NDP, Carol Hughes]

If the hon. member does not want to withdraw his comment, I will go to the next speaker.

I would also ask the hon. member for Calgary Forest Lawn, who made a comment about misogyny, to withdraw it.

[Jasraj Singh Hallan, Conservative, Calgary Forest Lawn, AB]

Madam Speaker, I will withdraw my comment of “fake feminist”, but I stand by everything else.

[The Assistant Deputy Speaker, NDP, Carol Hughes]

I am sorry. It was the member for Cypress Hills—Grasslands. That is not acceptable, and I would ask members to be civil and respectful in the House.

The hon. member for Cypress Hills—Grasslands.