House of Commons Hansard #191 of the 44th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was interference.

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Opposition Motion—Interference by the People's Republic of China Members debate a Conservative motion concerning foreign interference by the People's Republic of China in Canadian democracy. Conservatives demand a foreign agent registry, a national public inquiry, closure of PRC police stations, and expulsion of diplomats, criticizing government inaction. Liberals defend their measures, including consultations for a registry, while questioning a public inquiry's feasibility. The Bloc and NDP support the motion, emphasizing a truly independent public inquiry and addressing broader foreign interference, including threats against MPs' families and diaspora communities. 43800 words, 6 hours in 2 segments: 1 2.

Statements by Members

Question Period

The Conservatives focus heavily on Chinese foreign interference and the targeting of a Member of Parliament's family by a Beijing diplomat, Wei Zhao. They accuse the Liberal government of spreading misinformation and victim blaming regarding the MP's knowledge of the threat, demanding apologies and the diplomat's immediate expulsion. Concerns were also raised about the cost of living and the Prime Minister's lavish trips.
The Liberals prioritize addressing Chinese foreign interference by offering briefings, summoning the Chinese ambassador, and implementing tools to protect democratic institutions. They defend their national housing strategy and efforts to combat the high cost of living with measures like a grocery rebate. They also highlighted investments in healthcare, emergency preparedness for floods, and missing and murdered Indigenous women and girls.
The Bloc criticizes the Prime Minister for ignoring warnings about Chinese foreign interference and failing to inform targeted MPs, demanding an independent inquiry. They also call for Canada to abolish the monarchy and question the coronation's cost.
The NDP criticizes the government's failure on the housing crisis, demanding action on social housing. They also call for universal public pharmacare and question the Prime Minister's broken promise on electoral reform.
The Greens urge the federal government to implement stringent clean electricity regulations to prevent natural gas expansion in Ontario.

Private Members' Business—Speaker's Ruling The Assistant Deputy Speaker rules Bill C-318, creating new EI benefits for adoptive and intended parents, requires a royal recommendation for a final vote because it increases public expenditures. 400 words.

Foreign Interference and Alleged Intimidation of Member Liberal MP Mark Holland responds to a question of privilege regarding alleged foreign intimidation, arguing it wasn't raised at the earliest opportunity and that uncorroborated leaks cannot establish a prima facie case. 1100 words, 10 minutes.

Employment Insurance Act Second reading of Bill C-318. The bill Bill C-318 amends the Employment Insurance Act to provide adoptive and intended parents with an additional 15 weeks of leave for attachment and bonding, mirroring maternity benefits. Supporters, including the Conservative mover and NDP and Bloc Québécois members, argue for equity and child well-being, noting the Liberal government's past commitments to this non-partisan issue. Liberals state they are committed to providing this but are still working on how to best implement EI modernization. 6900 words, 1 hour.

Adjournment Debates

Public service strike impact Alex Ruff questions why it took two years to resolve the public service strike, citing impacts on immigration, taxes, and marine training programs. Greg Fergus states that the government tabled its offer a year ago, but PSAC didn't negotiate until after the public interest commission report. He advises future governments to negotiate early.
Tackling foreign interference Kevin Vuong questions the government's response to foreign interference, citing delays in expelling a Chinese diplomat and creating a foreign agent registry. Jennifer O'Connell defends the government's actions, highlighting the complexity of the issue and the need to follow the rule of law. Vuong suspects he was a target in 2021.
Indigenous policing legislation Lori Idlout asks when the government will pass legislation allowing Indigenous peoples to keep themselves safe. Jennifer O'Connell responds that the Minister of Public Safety is mandated to co-develop first nations police services legislation and notes investments made by the government. Idlout criticizes the government's incremental approach.
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Democratic InstitutionsOral Questions

2:40 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Mr. Speaker, earlier in today's debate, two members of the Liberal government claimed that the member for Wellington—Halton Hills had known for two years that his family was being targeted by Beijing operatives on Canadian soil. That is categorically false. Those members should be ashamed for their victim blaming and trying to shift responsibility away from the Prime Minister, who has not stood up for Canada and Canadians.

If the Prime Minister will not expel these Liberals from his own caucus for promoting conspiracy theories and disinformation, will he at the very least expel these Communist operatives who are still in Canada?

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2:40 p.m.

Ajax Ontario

Liberal

Mark Holland LiberalLeader of the Government in the House of Commons

Mr. Speaker, I have to rise in my place because I think it is important for us to take a step back to recognize that, as Russia and China target this House and all democratic places everywhere, there is absolutely no question that the government, and any government in the history of Canada, would see a threat against any parliamentarian as anything other than a threat against every single person in the House. The assertion that anything else is the case is ridiculous.

All of us stand firm and resolute against the threat to democracy. It is absolutely a threat against us all, and we will rise to the hour every time.

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2:45 p.m.

Conservative

Mark Strahl Conservative Chilliwack—Hope, BC

Mr. Speaker, the Liberals have not only failed to do anything about the fact that a diplomat from Beijing has targeted a member of Parliament and his family because of how he voted in the House of Commons, but they have also stooped to a disgusting new low today. The Liberal MPs for Kingston and the Islands and Winnipeg North have both stood in the House to imply that it is the MP from Wellington—Halton Hills himself who is to blame for the government's inaction.

Will the Prime Minister rise in this place to apologize for these despicable false claims coming from these Liberal MPs?

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Ajax Ontario

Liberal

Mark Holland LiberalLeader of the Government in the House of Commons

Mr. Speaker, what we can agree on unequivocally is that it is disgusting—

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Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

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The Speaker Anthony Rota

Order. The hon. government House leader may continue.

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Liberal

Mark Holland Liberal Ajax, ON

Mr. Speaker, what we can agree on unequivocally is that a target of a member of Parliament's family is an act beyond anything we can imagine. Every single one of us have dedicated our lives to democracy. We have seen ourselves—

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Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

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The Speaker Anthony Rota

I have gotten up twice already. The third time I get up, whoever is next from that party is going to go to the end and we are going to start exchanging places. They are going to go to the back of the line and we will let the person who is last come in their place. I am going to ask everyone to be quiet and be respectful, and ask questions quietly.

The hon. government House leader.

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2:45 p.m.

Liberal

Mark Holland Liberal Ajax, ON

Mr. Speaker, I do not know how many members of the chamber have been named and targeted by Russia; the number is high. I do not know how many members have been targeted by other foreign powers, but I do know this: There are forces right now that would see democracy piled under the dirt and that would attack our democracy, and we need to stand shoulder to shoulder, as we do with the member for Wellington—Halton Hills.

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2:45 p.m.

Conservative

Mark Strahl Conservative Chilliwack—Hope, BC

Mr. Speaker, the Liberal MP for Winnipeg North said that the member for Wellington—Halton Hills has known about the threats against him for two years; that is categorically false. The Liberal MP for Kingston and the Islands said that the MP for Wellington—Halton Hills was briefed on these specific threats two years ago. This is categorically false. Liberals are now targeting the MP who, himself, has been targeted by Beijing.

When will the Prime Minister get up and apologize for the Liberal MPs spreading these outright lies?

Democratic InstitutionsOral Questions

2:45 p.m.

The Speaker Anthony Rota

Will the hon. member for Chilliwack—Hope withdraw his statement?

Okay. Let me consult with the Table and see what we can do about that.

That is not allowed in the House; it is not parliamentary. I am going to give the hon. member one more chance and then we will move on. We are not going to have many people left to ask questions.

Will the hon. member for Chilliwack—Hope withdraw his statement?

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2:45 p.m.

Conservative

Mark Strahl Conservative Chilliwack—Hope, BC

Mr. Speaker, I stand by what I said.

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The Speaker Anthony Rota

The hon. member for Chilliwack—Hope will not be recognized by the Chair until he withdraws the statement.

The hon. member for Vancouver East.

HousingOral Questions

2:45 p.m.

NDP

Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

Mr. Speaker, the Liberals abandoned their responsibility to build social housing, and Canadians are paying the price. Under this Prime Minister, the cost of a home has nearly doubled. Successive Liberal and Conservative governments allowed corporate landlords to buy up affordable housing stock and jack up the cost of housing for renters and homeowners alike.

Will the Liberals stop treating housing as a commodity and commit to building at least 500,000 units of social housing and co-op housing so that families can find a home that they can afford?

HousingOral Questions

2:50 p.m.

Hochelaga Québec

Liberal

Soraya Martinez Ferrada LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Housing and Diversity and Inclusion (Housing)

Mr. Speaker, while we agree on the current housing supply challenges across the country, my colleague knows full well that this government has made historic investments since it came to office, starting with the first-ever national housing strategy.

We have built or renovated 480,000 housing units. We have kept 62,000 people off the street, and we have taken more than 32,000 people off the street.

Yes, I agree with my colleague, there is still a lot of work to be done.

PharmacareOral Questions

2:50 p.m.

NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

Mr. Speaker, the Liberals promised universal public pharmacare in 1997. Since then, countless committees and commissions, including this government's own Hoskins report, have advised that single-payer pharmacare is the only way to go, but Canadians are still waiting for the Liberal government to keep its promise. While the Liberals protect big pharma's profits, the NDP is fighting to deliver public pharmacare so Canadians get the medicine they need.

After a quarter-century of delay, will the minister finally commit to implementing universal, public pharmacare?

PharmacareOral Questions

2:50 p.m.

Québec Québec

Liberal

Jean-Yves Duclos LiberalMinister of Health

Mr. Speaker, I am very grateful for the opportunity to speak of what we are doing to increase the accessibility, affordability and appropriateness of drug use in Canada. I will mention the launch, just a few weeks ago, of the strategy for drugs for rare diseases, a half-billion-dollar investment every year for the next three years to make sure that children, in particular, and other people in need of drugs for rare diseases have access to those very important drugs.

The Canada drug agency is going to be set up quickly to set up a national formulary to reduce—

PharmacareOral Questions

2:50 p.m.

The Speaker Anthony Rota

The hon. member for Longueuil—Charles-LeMoyne.

Disaster AssistanceOral Questions

2:50 p.m.

Liberal

Sherry Romanado Liberal Longueuil—Charles-LeMoyne, QC

Mr. Speaker, this week, several regions in Quebec were hit hard by flooding. We were saddened to learn that two firefighters from the Charlevoix region lost their lives when they came to the rescue of residents in danger. My heart goes out to the families of these firefighters, Christopher Lavoie and Régis Lavoie, at this difficult time.

Can the Minister of Emergency Preparedness inform the House of the measures the federal government is taking to help the communities that are affected by these floods?

Disaster AssistanceOral Questions

2:50 p.m.

Scarborough Southwest Ontario

Liberal

Bill Blair LiberalPresident of the King’s Privy Council for Canada and Minister of Emergency Preparedness

Mr. Speaker, I thank the member for Longueuil—Charles-LeMoyne for sharing her condolences.

Our deepest condolences go out to the families of firefighters Christopher and Régis Lavoie. They went out in the middle of serious flooding to do their jobs and to save lives, and we mourn their loss as we recognize their sacrifice. As Charlevoix and the Quebec region begin to recover from these floods, I have reached out to Minister Bonnardel to offer both our condolences and our support.

We are monitoring the flooding conditions very carefully across the province. We will continue to stand ready to ensure that the province has the assistance it needs in response and in recovery.

Democratic InstitutionsOral Questions

2:50 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

Mr. Speaker, the Minister of Foreign Affairs has said that she is assessing interests in determining whether to expel the Beijing diplomat who arranged to punish the family of the member for Wellington—Halton Hills. The minister has a choice to make, because the number one priority of the government ought to be the safety and security of Canadians, and by allowing this Beijing thug to remain in Canada, it is putting Chinese Canadians at risk.

When will the government get its priorities straight and send him packing today?

Democratic InstitutionsOral Questions

2:50 p.m.

Ahuntsic-Cartierville Québec

Liberal

Mélanie Joly LiberalMinister of Foreign Affairs

Mr. Speaker, of course, when it comes to foreign interference, we will never tolerate it, and that is exactly what I said to my counterpart when I met with him a month ago. That is also why we summoned the Chinese ambassador a bit earlier today. Now, we are also, as a thoughtful government, assessing all the interests that are at stake, because we know, based on the two Michaels' experience, that when it comes to the PRC, it will take action that will have an impact on our diplomatic, consular and economic interests.

That being said, all options are on the table, including the expulsion of diplomats.

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Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

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The Speaker Anthony Rota

The hon. member for St. Albert—Edmonton will now be last.

We'll now go to the hon. member for Kitchener Centre.