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House of Commons Hansard #353 of the 44th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was documents.

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Canada Health Act First reading of Bill C-414. The bill amends the Canada Health Act to include community-based mental health, addictions, and substance use services as insured services, requiring provinces and territories to provide coverage. 200 words.

Petitions

Reference to Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs Members debate the government's refusal to provide unredacted documents on the Sustainable Development Technology Canada fund, following Auditor General's findings of conflicts of interest and ineligible projects. Opposition demands documents go to RCMP, citing parliamentary privilege. Government cites Charter rights and police independence concerns, suggesting committee review and accusing opposition of playing political games and filibustering. 55000 words, 7 hours in 2 segments: 1 2.

Statements by Members

Question Period

The Conservatives focus on the carbon tax, citing the PBO report to argue it costs Canadians more, linking it to the rising cost of living, and repeatedly calling for a carbon tax election. They also criticize the government over a $400-million green slush fund scandal, alleging obstruction of justice for refusing to provide documents to the RCMP, and raise issues of national security and income inequality.
The Liberals defend the carbon tax and Canada Carbon Rebate using the PBO report, highlighting climate change impacts. They accuse Conservatives of interfering with police and parliamentary proceedings. They also emphasize support for supply management, social programs like dental care and the Canada child benefit, addressing foreign interference, and condemning groups like Samidoun.
The Bloc criticizes the Senate's obstruction of Bill C-282 on supply management and calls on the government to intervene. They also demand the Liberals increase old age security for seniors 65-74 via Bill C-319.
The NDP raise concerns about the high cost of groceries and Canadians relying on credit cards. They criticize the Liberals' failure on health care, government lawyers' offensive language regarding clean water for First Nations, and call for action on the Israel-Gaza situation.
The Green Party raises concerns about the Six Nations' community health centre due to black mould and inadequate support from Indigenous Services Canada.

Finance Members debate the Canadian economy and the impact of government policies, focusing on the Liberal government's capital gains tax increase. Conservative MP Tracy Gray argues it hurts small businesses, investment, productivity, and housing construction, citing constituent concerns. Liberal MP Jenica Atwin challenges the claim it is a job-killing tax, citing a report suggesting it benefits the wealthy. 1500 words, 10 minutes.

Adjournment Debates

Kitchener-Toronto railway service Mike Morrice asks Adam van Koeverden for a timeline from the province on two-way, all-day GO train service between Kitchener and Toronto. Van Koeverden notes the federal government has committed funding and says that GO train service is a provincial matter, mentioning a by-election in Milton.
Carbon tax effects in Alberta Martin Shields cites a PBO report that Albertans will pay more in carbon tax than they receive in rebates. Adam van Koeverden responds that the PBO didn't consider the costs of climate inaction. Shields notes that the carbon tax hurts public services. Van Koeverden blames Alberta's high-carbon electricity grid.
Decriminalization of hard drugs Jamil Jivani criticizes the Liberal government for considering a proposal to decriminalize hard drugs, citing the overdose crisis and Minister Lametti's praise for the idea. Adam van Koeverden responds that the government rejected a similar request from Toronto and accuses Jivani of spreading misinformation.
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Reference to Standing Committee on Procedure and House AffairsPrivilegeOrders of the Day

6:15 p.m.

Conservative

Shuv Majumdar Conservative Calgary Heritage, AB

Mr. Speaker, I am talking about everyday people who are trying to make ends meet, and the government has taken over $400 million of Canadians' hard-earned money and wasted it on insider friends. I would like to make sure our NDP-Liberal government coalition colleagues spend time to understand the costs that everyday people are paying for this extraordinary corruption.

Seniors are watching now as their pensions go up in smoke. Newcomers and young couples are seeing their dreams of home ownership being ripped away—

Reference to Standing Committee on Procedure and House AffairsPrivilegeOrders of the Day

6:15 p.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Mr. Speaker, on a point of order, I am wondering if there are any standing orders that prevent a member from reading virtually verbatim the Conservative-Reform Party speeches handed to them?

Reference to Standing Committee on Procedure and House AffairsPrivilegeOrders of the Day

6:15 p.m.

The Deputy Speaker Chris d'Entremont

That is debate.

We have about 12 minutes left, so I would just say to let this go.

The hon. member for Calgary Heritage, stay on topic, please.

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6:15 p.m.

Conservative

Shuv Majumdar Conservative Calgary Heritage, AB

Mr. Speaker, small businesses, farmers, doctors and home builders lose sleep as they watch the government introduce its latest job-killing tax hike. Canadians who are barely scraping by see the Prime Minister waste $400 million of their—

Reference to Standing Committee on Procedure and House AffairsPrivilegeOrders of the Day

6:15 p.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Mr. Speaker, on a point of order, can the member give a clear indication as to whether it is his speech or a Conservative speech from the back?

Reference to Standing Committee on Procedure and House AffairsPrivilegeOrders of the Day

6:15 p.m.

The Deputy Speaker Chris d'Entremont

That is running into debate once again.

The hon. member for Fort McMurray—Cold Lake has a point of order.

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6:15 p.m.

Conservative

Laila Goodridge Conservative Fort McMurray—Cold Lake, AB

Mr. Speaker, I appreciate that the Liberals do not want to hear the well-crafted speech that my colleague from Calgary Heritage has written and is delivering. It is very frustrating to me that the Liberals want to shut him down at every single opportunity.

Mr. Speaker, I would ask that you let my colleague finish his speech.

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6:15 p.m.

The Deputy Speaker Chris d'Entremont

I would like nothing more than to let the hon. member complete his speech.

A point of order is for something grave. It better be good and better be listed in the Standing Orders. I want a number and section when members stand up.

The hon. member for Edmonton Griesbach has a point of order.

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6:15 p.m.

NDP

Blake Desjarlais NDP Edmonton Griesbach, AB

Mr. Speaker, I appreciate you asking us to offer something good, so I have good news: The New Democrats just passed pharmacare in the Senate. It is breaking news right now. I congratulate all—

Reference to Standing Committee on Procedure and House AffairsPrivilegeOrders of the Day

6:20 p.m.

The Deputy Speaker Chris d'Entremont

That is not a point of order, but I appreciate the update.

The hon. member for Calgary Heritage.

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6:20 p.m.

Conservative

Shuv Majumdar Conservative Calgary Heritage, AB

Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the opportunity.

For the parliamentary secretary across the way, I thought he would be more grateful. A couple days ago I promoted him to deputy House leader, but evidently I got that promotion wrong. However, I assure him that these are indeed my words, and I stand by them with great confidence.

Canadians, who are barely scraping by, see this Prime Minister waste $400 million of their hard-earned taxpayer money, and he wonders why nobody has confidence in him or his NDP-Liberals. I look around. These same Canadians see crime, chaos, drugs and disorder on our streets. They see a Minister of Justice who offers up bail, not jail, for violent repeat offenders, causing violent crime to skyrocket 50%. Hate crimes are up 251%. More than 100 churches have been burned and synagogues have been firebombed. We do not even hear a pin drop from this government on any of this. It is a national disgrace.

Canadians see drugs flooding our communities and a government that offers up drugs rather than treatment and recovery. They watch a spiralling, flailing, out-of-control health minister go to war over nicotine pouches, but when it comes to fighting the drug overdose crisis, the leading cause of death for B.C. kids, he refuses. In fact, this government fuels the crisis further with its taxpayer-funded drug dens, and 42,000 lives have tragically been lost from the drug crisis in our country since 2015.

We recently saw at the health committee a parent of one of the victims who bravely spoke out against the government's so-called safe supply experiment. When asked what her message to this Prime Minister was, she asked, “How can you have 'safe'...and 'drugs' in the same sentence?” It does not make sense. Those two contradict each other deeply. How can this government continue to consciously fund this program? This disastrous experiment needs to be stopped before more lives are lost needlessly.

Canadians also see an environment minister who has delivered nothing to clean up our environment. He has only brought in higher taxes on working people. His policies are as weak as the paper straws he is forcing us all to use.

Sadly, as I return to discussing the government's ethics, I look around and see NDP-Liberals in this chamber who do not even recognize the damage they have caused. They truly believe they know best. They have all the answers, even when Canadians have to suffer because of it. They think they can wave a magic wand and undo these last nine years, promising the world and yet letting down Canadians each and every time.

Today we see NDP-Liberals paralyzing Parliament over documents showing Liberal insiders stuffing their own pockets with taxpayer dollars. This week, we saw the government House leader call this investigation a “witch hunt”. How is it a witch hunt when 400 million taxpayer dollars are at stake? If this government has nothing to hide, why not hand over the documents?

The story changes by the week. Last week, Liberals told Canadians they had already handed the documents over to the RCMP and not to worry at all. This week, they say the Charter of Rights will go down in smoke if they dare show a shred of transparency. It is funny how that works.

The Ethics Commissioner appointed by this government has found the chair of the fund in violation of the law. The Auditor General, also appointed by this government, says there were 186 conflicts of interest involving Liberal appointees giving millions of dollars to their own companies.

The Prime Minister would rather put all of his government business on hold to hide whatever is in these documents. This is corruption unlike we have ever seen before in this country. As I speak on Liberal corruption, I have to reflect on the current state of their leadership.

In quiet moments, even Liberal MPs admit they are counting down the days. They are just wishing this Prime Minister would take his proverbial walk in the snow. They know his days are numbered, and they are quietly placing their bets on the next man in line, Mark “carbon tax” Carney. Our friend from Red Deer—Mountain View likes to quip that every circus needs its carny, but Canadians know better than to fall for this bait and switch. They have seen this movie before, one corrupt Liberal swapped out for another, with the same disastrous results.

This is not a circus; it is the government of this country.

When this Prime Minister appointed Carney as a Liberal adviser, he made sure the role was shielded from any pesky conflict of interest rules. There is no accountability and no oversight, just Liberals protecting their own. However, this cozy arrangement is now facing some well-deserved scrutiny, especially after Carney's investment fund, Brookfield, where he serves as chair, has come knocking on the government's door for $10 billion in taxpayer dollars—

Reference to Standing Committee on Procedure and House AffairsPrivilegeOrders of the Day

October 10th, 2024 / 6:25 p.m.

Green

Mike Morrice Green Kitchener Centre, ON

Mr. Speaker, on a point of order, there are rules in this place, such as Standing Order 43. I get that there is a lot of latitude, but plastic straws, drugs and Mark Carney have nothing to do with the motion. What is the point of rules if we are not going to enforce them?

Reference to Standing Committee on Procedure and House AffairsPrivilegeOrders of the Day

6:25 p.m.

The Deputy Speaker Chris d'Entremont

The hon. member just spoke to exactly what we are talking about. The member did veer off a little, but he is veering back.

As I have said, Speakers give members lots of latitude on the different items that are talked about in this chamber. I would suggest that we allow the member to complete his speech.

The hon. member for Calgary Heritage has the floor.

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6:25 p.m.

Conservative

Shuv Majumdar Conservative Calgary Heritage, AB

Mr. Speaker, the NDP-Liberal-Green coalition is strong today.

The cozy arrangement is now facing some well-deserved scrutiny, especially after Carney's investment fund, Brookfield, on which he serves as chair, has come knocking on the government's door for $10 billion in taxpayer dollars to get his hands on the pension savings of hard-working Canadian families and seniors. Members can let that sink in. The same guy who is scheming to take over the top Liberal job is looking to raid the pension fund of Canadians, and the Prime Minister seems all too willing to hand over the cash.

Canadians see through this corruption. They will not stand by as their hard-earned is funnelled into corporate coffers while elites play musical chairs with our democracy. It is almost as though the government would rather wait until the very last day possible for Canadians to vote them out rather than give them a choice. Liberals would rather stay in power so they can get their pensions than call a carbon tax election, where their corruption, tax increases and failed policies will all be voted on.

It was just today, at a parliamentary committee looking into the stolen $400 million and over 186 conflicts of interest, that a Liberal MP yelled expletives at Conservatives who were asking them to have the integrity to worry about taxpayer dollars. They yelled expletives and were breaking down after being asked to give Canadians answers. It seems the Liberals will do just about anything to cover up their scandals and mismanagement of taxpayer dollars.

I would like to read some of the SDTC whistle-blower testimony on this subject for Canadians to hear. The quotes are quite damning. They are as follows:

I know that the federal government, like the minister, has continued saying that there was no criminal intent and nothing was found, but I think the committee would agree that they're not to be trusted on this situation. I would happily agree to whatever the findings are by the RCMP, but I would say that I wouldn't trust that there isn't any criminality unless the RCMP is given full authority to investigate....

Again, if you bring in the RCMP and they do their investigation and they find something or they don't, I think the public would be happy with that. I don't think we should leave it to the current federal government or the ruling party to make those decisions. Let the public see what's there.

The whistle-blower also stated:

Just as I was always confident that the Auditor General would confirm the financial mismanagement at SDTC, I remain equally confident that the RCMP will substantiate the criminal activities that occurred within the organization.

...The true failure of the situation stands at the feet of our current government, whose decision to protect wrongdoers and cover up their findings over the last 12 months is a serious indictment of how our democratic systems and institutions are being corrupted by political interference. It should never have taken two years for the issues to reach this point. What should have been a straightforward process turned into a bureaucratic nightmare that allowed SDTC to continue wasting millions of dollars and abusing countless employees over the last year.

The whistle-blower continued:

...I think the current government is more interested in protecting themselves and protecting the situation from being a public nightmare. They would rather protect wrongdoers and financial mismanagement than have to deal with a situation like SDTC in the public sphere.

After nine years of the government, who can believe it anymore. The results are in. Food price inflation is at a 40-year high. Two million Canadians are relying on food banks, and many families are cutting back on their Thanksgiving dinners because of Liberal policies that have driven up the cost of food. This $400-million scandal is a slap in the face to all Canadians struggling to afford to feed themselves. I think of the people struggling to buy groceries for whom this money could go towards feeding. I think of the heartbreak that families in my communities are feeling. I hear the stories of parents who have to choose between paying rent or putting food on the table. Liberals promised phony programs, delivered no results and made big announcements with little to show for it.

Reference to Standing Committee on Procedure and House AffairsPrivilegeOrders of the Day

6:30 p.m.

The Deputy Speaker Chris d'Entremont

Having reached the expiry of the time provided for today's debate, the House will resume consideration of the privilege motion at the next sitting of the House.

The House resumed from September 25 consideration of the motion.

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6:30 p.m.

Conservative

Tracy Gray Conservative Kelowna—Lake Country, BC

Mr. Speaker, it is always an honour to rise on behalf of the residents of Kelowna—Lake Country.

I was recently in a meeting with over 20 small business owners, who are frustrated with federal government policies affecting them. One mentioned how the federal government keeps adding to their challenges, and he said that they need regulations that are stable and that small business have enough challenges. Another small business owner said they have another business in the United States, and they are wondering if they should move more of their business there. Those are lost opportunities and lost jobs for Canadians and for the Canadian economy.

Recently, Statistics Canada reported that GDP per capita continues to fall in Canada. Things look even worse when Canada's economy is compared with that of the United States.

I also want to mention that I will be splitting my time.

America's GDP per capita has grown by 4.5% since 2022. Before it had the current Prime Minister, Canada was keeping up with the United States. In fact, nine years ago, The New York Times found that Canada's middle class was richer than America's. However, the Liberals really have destroyed Canada's economy with their job-killing taxes and wasteful spending.

We have seen a collapse in productivity, which means how far people's paycheques go. This relates not to how hard people work but to the productivity of the country and how much money people have in their pockets at the end of the month. The productivity gap with the United States now stands at a difference of about $20,000 per person a year.

Things that have recently affected small business owners and Canadians are the Liberals' changes to the capital gains tax, and I want to talk about that for a little while. The Liberals were scrambling when facing opposition from doctors, small business owners and Canadians saving for their retirement. As a result of these investment-killing policies, capital has been driven out of Canada and Canadians are worse off.

I have been at the housing committee, and I have recently sat in at the finance committee and trade committee. There, I had the opportunity to hear from witnesses from all different types of businesses. They are all basically saying the same thing, which is that this capital gains tax is going to hurt investment, that businesses are already moving to the United States and that it will make homebuilding more difficult. We also know that this job-killing tax is on health care, homebuilding, small businesses and farming.

Those at technology companies have been talking about the fact that this will make it much more difficult for them to find investors. In addition, according to economist Jack Mintz, “the increase in the capital gains tax rate will reduce Canada’s GDP by $90 billion, real per capita GDP by 3 percent, its capital stock by $127 billion, and employment by 414,000.”

Taxing farmers drives up food costs. Taxing doctors means that it is harder to find a doctor. Taxing home builders means fewer homes being built, and taxing small businesses means fewer paycheques and that small business owners need to work longer.

The Council of Canadian Innovators recently commissioned a survey of entrepreneurs. It showed that 90% of respondents believed the Liberals' capital gains tax hike would have a negative effect on the innovation economy.

I could talk for an hour on this issue, reading notes and messages from residents in my community of Kelowna—Lake Country about how the capital gains tax will affect them. I will read a few.

The first one is from a local resident, who wrote:

I have owned a commercial unit in Kelowna for several years.... I decided that purchasing a strata unit would be a good long term retirement plan, and until [the Prime Minister] introduced the increase in capital gains, it was.

My accountants...analyzed the penalties I would be paying if I sold the property past June 24th, 2024. The additional taxes were so substantial that now I cannot sell my unit until at least 2029....

So, instead of retiring at the age of 71, I can now plan on working for another few years....

Another resident wrote to me to say:

Well, we definitely will be affected. We own a small business and cottage—both of which we plan to sell as part of our retirement plan. Both will now have higher capital gains tax and will eat into our retirement funds. This means that we will have to work at our business longer to make up for the tax increase....

Hope that helps you build your case for tax reform and thank you for your efforts.

Another resident said:

As a single middle income mom who has raised 3 kids to adulthood, I am now in the position of needing to assist these adult kids with buying their first homes given the unaffordability....

It simply isn't fair to change the tax rules without thinking through all the ways that this will hurt those of us who have worked hard our whole lives, tried to responsibly save for our retirements, and are trying to help our children with the ridiculous unaffordability they are being hit with.

Another resident, who talked about the CRA, said, “The CRA helpline has stopped taking calls due to the volume and when you can get in the queue it is a 3 hour wait to speak to a CRA representative.”

This is why the Conservatives have said that within 60 days of forming government, we will name a tax reform task force of entrepreneurs, inventors, farmers and workers to design a bring-it-home tax cut that will allow workers to bring home more of each dollar they earn; bring home production and paycheques by making Canada the best place to invest, hire and make things; and bring home fairness by reducing the share of taxes paid by the poor and middle class, while cutting tax-funded corporate welfare and cracking down on overseas tax havens. We will also cut the paperwork and bureaucracy in the tax system by at least 20%.

One other thing I want to mention, since we are talking about Canada's economy today and the budget, is the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation. It has reports out noting that there are far fewer housing starts in 2023, 30,000 in fact, as a consequence of soaring interest rates. In 2023, the CMHC recorded that Canada had 240,000 housing starts, which was down 8% from the previous year.

We know that to bring back housing affordability and to build the homes Canada needs, approximately 550,000 homes would have to be built on an annual basis. We just completed a study at the housing committee on housing, and one after the other, developers and people who work in the construction industry testified that there was not a chance, based on current policies and the current situation with costs, taxes, interest rates and bureaucracy, that anywhere near the number of homes we need in Canada will be built.

In my last minute, I want to mention the Parliamentary Budget Officer's updated carbon tax report, which was just released. It shows that most Canadian families are worse off as a result of the carbon tax. We know that life has never been more expensive over the last nine years. The Parliamentary Budget Officer estimates that the federal fuel charge will increase the budgetary deficit by $1.5 billion in 2024-25, and ultimately by $4 billion in 2030-31, as a result of the decrease in employment and investment income. Also, as previously discovered, internal numbers within the government show that the carbon tax will cost Canadians $30.5 billion by 2030. This works out to over $1,800 per family in extra annual costs.

We need a country where hard work pays off, with powerful paycheques and pensions that buy affordable food, gas and homes in safe neighbourhoods. That is what Conservatives want.

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6:40 p.m.

Fredericton New Brunswick

Liberal

Jenica Atwin LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Indigenous Services

Mr. Speaker, I want to highlight the idea that this capital gains increase is a job-killing tax. According to an economic report cited in BNN Bloomberg, “analysis suggests that favourable tax treatment of capital gains disproportionately benefits the wealthy and does not help the economy.”

In fact, sectors that own the most capital gains, notably “venture capital companies and investment banks, as well as the real estate sector, together made 52.6 per cent of all corporate capital gains reported...between 2018 and 2022. Meanwhile, these sectors shed nearly 5,000 jobs during that time period.”

I am just trying to reconcile the member's comments with these statistics.

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6:40 p.m.

Conservative

Tracy Gray Conservative Kelowna—Lake Country, BC

Mr. Speaker, while I did mention a number of situations from constituents in my community of Kelowna—Lake Country, I really do encourage the member to go to the testimony from the many witnesses who have testified at the human resources committee, which deals with housing; at the finance committee; and also at the trade committee. All have heard testimony from many businesses and organizations talking very specifically about how the capital gains tax is going to hurt their business and their industry. I really encourage her to look at all of that testimony.

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6:40 p.m.

The Deputy Speaker Chris d'Entremont

There being no further members rising, pursuant to order made earlier today, the question is deemed put and a recorded division is deemed requested.

Pursuant to Standing Order 66, the recorded division stands deferred until Wednesday, October 23, at the expiry of the time provided for Oral Questions.

Before we go to the end, I want to thank the hon. member for Kitchener Centre. I figure we had 100 different points of order today that we were required to deal with. He was the only individual who actually quoted a standing order.

A motion to adjourn the House under Standing Order 38 deemed to have been moved.

InfrastructureAdjournment Proceedings

6:40 p.m.

Green

Mike Morrice Green Kitchener Centre, ON

Mr. Speaker, I am rising tonight to continue to call on the government to get accountability and, specifically, a timeline on two-way, all-day GO train service between Kitchener and Toronto. It has been over a decade now that my community has heard promise after promise.

Here is what then Liberal premier Kathleen Wynne said to Craig Norris from CBC K-W back in May 2014: “We're making the two-way, all-day GO a priority because I know people want to go back and forth. I can't give you the specific dates but we want to get going on this right away”. Her party was elected the very next month, and we never got a date for completion from her.

Then, back in 2017, the federal government committed 40% of the project cost. At the time, it put in over $752 million, three-quarters of a billion dollars. Now retired regional chair Ken Seiling, was thrilled, as he should have been. He said, “It is a strategic investment that recognizes the importance of the Toronto-Waterloo region innovation corridor to the Canadian economy”.

Then the next provincial election came along. Keeping in mind that Conservative Doug Ford now knew about the federal money that was already committed, here is what he said: “We're going to have the pedal to the metal, and we're going to move forward, we're going to cut all the red tape and bureaucracy that gets in the way of these projects”. While Premier Ford got elected that year, that was six years ago. So much for pedal to the metal.

Where do we stand today? After more than a decade has passed since that first political commitment, and despite constant political ads from the provincial Conservatives bragging about progress in my community, we have a total of 10 trains a day that go from Kitchener to Toronto and nine trains a day from Toronto to Kitchener, and they run only on weekdays. Every now and then, if we are lucky, Metrolinx will announce special one-off weekend service on a holiday weekend like the one coming up.

Worst of all, we still do not even have a timeline for completion. It means that in my community, folks continue to get left on the platform waiting for overcrowded buses. They could be a commuter, for example. They could be someone looking to get to a medical specialist in Toronto or a family looking to get to a Jays' game. One young person even shared with me this past summer that, as a queer person, she would love to take the GO to be able to date in Toronto. She wants two-way, all-day GO for queer love.

This is also about the climate. We need to give people more convenient, more affordable and lower-carbon ways of getting around, recognizing that transportation is the largest emissions source in Ontario. Here is an example of what is possible: The Montreal REM rapid transit system opened last summer. It took just five years to go from “prep work” to “doors open” on a 67-kilometre line with service every three and a half minutes during peak hours.

While two-way, all-day GO would, of course, be delivered by the provincial government, folks in my community are tired of having different levels of government blame one another. If the federal government put in 40% of the money, as it did, it should at least be demanding accountability on the funds. I have written to the minister. There have been almost two years of letters now. I raised it with the Prime Minister a few weeks ago. I am raising it again. When will the government call for accountability and specifically for a timeline from the province on two-way, all-day GO train service between Kitchener and Toronto?

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6:45 p.m.

Milton Ontario

Liberal

Adam van Koeverden LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Environment and Climate Change and to the Minister of Sport and Physical Activity

Mr. Speaker, it is nice to be here in adjournment debate with you and some colleagues. I would like to thank my friend and colleague for the question and the opportunity to talk about the Government of Canada's continued commitment to helping build sustainable, inclusive and climate-resistant communities. I understand that public transit is a foundational element to a thriving community, and I join my colleague in advocating for two-way, all-day GO train services for Milton because I also sympathize.

Milton is in a very similar situation to Kitchener. We have been asking the provincial government to prioritize two-way, all-day GO train service for Milton because Canadians depend on the trains. They do not want to sit on the highway in traffic in order to get to work. The other problem in Milton is that we basically have eight trains that go out in the morning, starting early, the last one leaving around 9 a.m. Then those trains come back in the evening for a commuter-type experience. However, if a person wants to take a train on the weekend, or if they work shift work or work a shift that starts at noon or ends at midnight, they are out of luck. Therefore, it is important that we have a two-way, all-day GO train service, as well as reliable all-day GO train service. Right now, Miltonians drive down to the Oakville or Bronte GO stations to get that service. That defeats the purpose.

Taking the train is not only a great way to reduce our carbon emissions, but it is also a great way to multi-task. When I take the train, I send an email or two and listen to music. I suppose I listen to music while I drive as well. We all depend on that. That is why, since 2015, we have made substantial investments totalling more than $30 billion, more than any previous government, for over 2,000 public transit projects across Canada. That includes Canada's first-ever public transit fund, which I am happy to say Milton will be enjoying. We are a growing community with over 140,000 constituents now, as well as one of the youngest demographics, and they rely on that more and more. Therefore, it is important that we continue to invest.

It is also why we launched the largest-ever single public transit investment in Canadian history, the aforementioned Canada public transit fund. Starting in 2026-27, this fund will make an average of $3 billion a year available to help cities and communities deliver better public transit systems for Canadians. The fund will help communities of all sizes maintain existing transit systems and help plan for new transit infrastructure.

However, as my colleague correctly pointed out, the GO train service throughout the GTA is a provincial matter. I will continue to advocate with my member of provincial Parliament, and I know my colleague has a great relationship with his member of provincial Parliament because they happen to be party aligned. That is quite unique for the Green Party. The reason we will continue to do this together is that it will encourage the increased use of public transit, an increased housing supply and affordability. It will allow for people who do not necessarily want to own a car or drive a car frequently to live in a neighbourhood they can afford. It will improve public and active transportation options for everyone, especially indigenous peoples and equity-deserving groups.

The Canada public transit fund is made up of three different funding streams with the provinces, territories and municipalities. They can all select from various funding options that will best suit their public transit needs. Perhaps if there is an opportunity for rebuttal, I will be able to explain what those three areas are.

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6:50 p.m.

Green

Mike Morrice Green Kitchener Centre, ON

Mr. Speaker, it is really fitting that the parliamentary secretary also represents an area along the same line for which I have been calling for a two-way, all-day GO train service. Folks in his community would benefit just as much from it as folks in mine would.

I want to reiterate what I am calling for. In this case, the federal government did the right thing back in 2017: It put the funding forward. The federal government is an investor that has put in 40% of the project costs. It is reasonable that the investor would demand some accountability from the provincial government that is meant to deliver on the project. Accountability starts with a timeline for completion. Folks in his community and in mine deserve to have that accountability with respect to federal funds.

Will the member join us in calling on the provincial government to provide a timeline for the completion of the project?

InfrastructureAdjournment Proceedings

6:50 p.m.

Liberal

Adam van Koeverden Liberal Milton, ON

Mr. Speaker, it is more than that, actually. I have been working with my member of provincial Parliament on a plan for two-way, all-day GO trains. This is an important priority for both the member for Kitchener Centre and for me.

The federal government has committed the funding. Then, at various times, the provincial government commits funding, but only when it seems to be politically expedient. I do not mind pointing out to my colleague how that works.

We recently had a by-election in Milton. Doug Ford wanted a Conservative elected, so he had the transport minister write a letter to the federal government saying that the government was ready to invest some money into a both-directions, all-day GO train service for Milton; it is just a matter of the federal government coming into play. This is kind of ironic because we committed that funding in 2021. We told Doug Ford to come to the table to build a both-directions, all-day GO train service for Milton. Unfortunately, it did not fit his political goals at the time.

However, I am very excited to talk to my friend about more train service for our two communities.