Mr. Speaker, in the member's question, he referred to SDTC as being an arm's-length organization, and it was, in fact, not arm's-length. The board members were appointed through the minister. They were government appointments.
We know how SDTC operated. Senior government officials sat in on its meetings. They were privy to the decisions happening at the board level. They were there observing everything that was going on at the board level. They were not a completely arm's-length organization.