Madam Speaker, I want to thank my hon. colleague for his great work at OGGO, getting to the bottom of much of the serious procurement issue before us. One of the issues we worked together on in the public accounts committee was the issue of subcontracting. At the time, when we were investigating Dalian, a company that claimed to be indigenous for the purposes of getting government contracts, we had learned throughout the process that even he did not know the rules around the indigenous procurement strategy. He never knew them.
How can a government fail so much that even the person applying to the program did not have any idea, according to him, that there were misleading applications? Is this just part and parcel of the program that one must admit to not understanding the program in order to apply? What would the member have to say about those two options with respect to Dalian and with respect to the other Randy?