Mr. Speaker, we learned about that because the minister got caught as a result of additional text messages.
The minister represented, as the member pointed out, that he had had no communication with Mr. Anderson. Then text messages revealed that the Randy in question was in Vancouver while the minister was in Vancouver. He was asked to explain that. He tried to explain he had communicated with Mr. Anderson about a Purolator bill but not about the half-million dollar shakedown.
Was this a coincidence? I think not. By the way, calling or making inquiries to Anderson about paying a bill pertains to the operations of a business, so it raises even more questions about this minister violating the Conflict of Interest Act.