Madam Speaker, this is a classic case of if people shout enough then quorum gets interrupted.
The ruling was that you asked the member to withdraw, not to debate. Under Standing Order 18 and House of Commons Procedure and Practice, chapter 13, you asked the member to withdraw. Now you are saying that it is okay not to withdraw if we debate it. Therefore, I would ask you to go back and check Hansard for what you said. You asked her to withdraw. She refused—