Madam Speaker, my colleague works so hard and gets to the bottom of a lot of these issues. We have heard today, throughout this debate, that the Liberals are saying they have all read the conflict of interest guidelines and that employees have all read the conflict of interest guidelines. However, they simply do not follow them, so it seems to me as though there is a root issue in the culture of the government and of public sector employees who would double dip knowing that it was not right.
What would the member have to say about that?