House of Commons Hansard #390 of the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was confidence.

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4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Barrett Conservative Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands and Rideau Lakes, ON

Mr. Speaker, the words of the leader of the official opposition bring great hope to Canadians at a time when they need it most. The Liberal Prime Minister committed to a massive $40-billion deficit as the guardrail. Now, of course, that is an irresponsible number, $40 billion, but that is what the promise was, and they smashed through it. Who are the “they”? It is the NDP-Liberal Prime Minister and carbon tax Carney, his real economic adviser. They tried to pin this massive failure on their former finance minister. She declared she did not have confidence in the Prime Minister and that she would not support him.

I know he will have some very insightful wisdom for Canadians, so my question to the leader of the official opposition is this: What can Canadians look forward to that a common-sense Conservative government would do to restore fiscal sanity and clean up this $62-billion mess the Prime Minister has created?

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4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

Mr. Speaker, it is such a tough question; I almost did not want to stand up and answer it for a second there. It is a big mess. It is an incredible mess the Prime Minister will leave behind when he takes a run, and I understand that might happen any minute, as carbon tax Carney is lining up. We almost wonder if carbon tax Carney planned it all this way. He is the top economic adviser. He pushed all of these extra spending measures on the former finance minister and then she objected to the crazy $62-billion deficit. She is out now. The Prime Minister might soon be out. Who will walk up? Well, carbon tax Carney will, taking the wheel of the bus after he helped crash it.

He not the only one. There is also the getaway car. Who has been driving the getaway car? It is the NDP leader. Today, he said the Prime Minister should resign. However, just days ago he voted to keep the Prime Minister exactly where he is. It is time for the NDP leader to state clearly that not only has he lost confidence in the Prime Minister, but he is prepared to vote non-confidence or take any other legal steps necessary to to express non-confidence in the Prime Minister in order to trigger a carbon tax election as soon as possible.

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5 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. There have been consultations among the parties and if you seek it, I believe you would find unanimous consent for the following motion. I move that, notwithstanding any standing order, special order or usual practice of the House, the member for Vancouver Kingsway be permitted to speak a second time to this subamendment.

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Liberal

The Speaker Liberal Greg Fergus

Is that agreed?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Bloc

Alain Therrien Bloc La Prairie, QC

Mr. Speaker, I will begin by saying that I will be sharing my time with the member for Joliette.

First, this is an unusual situation. Personally, I have 10 years of experience and I have never seen anything like this in Parliament. It is total chaos.

I will come back to the economic update, the story of a horror or a horror story. We have been asking for an economic update for a long time. It is tradition. The government has to face the public and provide an update on its economic record. We have been talking about this document since November. We were insistent. We kept asking when they were going to present it. They did not know. They were not sure.

Finally, someone on that team had the bright idea to do this the day before the end of the session. Taken aback, the others said, “Why not? We have not reached the height of absurdity yet, so let's go”. That is how it was decided to wait until the last minute to present the economic update.

Now things have gotten really crazy. The finance minister and deputy prime minister has resigned. She felt the economic statement was ludicrous and decided not to table it. She got upset and left. She continues to speak out against the Prime Minister, which is very noble, I must admit. Who knows whether there will be an economic update; there is no finance minister.

Then, we eventually found out that there is a new Minister of Finance, someone who has all sorts of roles and who, it seems, always manages to settle matters, one way or another. He is like a firefighter—

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NDP

The Assistant Deputy Speaker NDP Carol Hughes

I hate to interrupt the hon. member, but some members in the House are having discussions. No one interrupted their leader when he was speaking. I would ask people to leave quietly if they wish to talk and give the hon. member for La Prairie the respect he deserves.

The hon. member for La Prairie.

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5 p.m.

Bloc

Alain Therrien Bloc La Prairie, QC

Madam Speaker, as I was saying, the government chose the patron saint of hopeless causes, or perhaps I should say the patron saint of desperate causes, as the new Minister of Finance. Today, the government was supposed to table the economic update and present it to the House. One does not need a PhD to know that the government has to make a speech when it tables such a document and that the opposition must have the right to reply. However, the government has muzzled MPs. I watched all of this play out. The Liberals are as confused as a chameleon in a bag of Skittles. They are completely lost. We are all wondering whether we are going to have a right of reply. We found a way to reply, and we are very happy about that.

We were on pins and needles as we waited for the economic update. We thought that it might contain something extraordinary, but there was nothing there except one very important thing. The only essential information is this. In April, the former finance minister promised, hand on heart, that the deficit would not exceed $40 billion. I am certain she was sincere. However, since then, all we have seen is problem after problem.

In October, the Parliamentary Budget Officer forecast a deficit of $46.8 billion. That was worrying. Then the election goodies started, with the Prime Minister handing them out left and right. People had to calm him down a bit, but the Prime Minister was not done yet. He is a bit over the top when it comes to spending. We now find ourselves staring down a $48.3‑billion deficit, and that is not the end of it either. There are three and a half months to go before the end of the fiscal year. It is worrying. That is what the economic update offered. My colleague will talk about that in more detail.

In reading this document, it is clear that there is nothing exceptional about it, except for one thing: the Minister of Finance resigned. The person who was supposed to table this document stepped down. She chose not to table it because she has principles. Perhaps the Prime Minister can learn something from his former finance minister. She had promised not to exceed $40 billion, but she did not agree with the Prime Minister.

At one point, the Prime Minister had Mr. Morneau resign because he was not spending enough. Some people are saying that the Prime Minister provoked the finance minister's resignation because he did not think she was spending enough. That is disturbing. It is always easy to spend other people's money, and the Prime Minister knows a thing or two about that.

Today, the Deputy Prime Minister resigned. This is like if Spock, from Star Trek, threw himself out a porthole to escape the Enterprise after losing all trust in Captain Kirk. It is unheard of. People are saying that the Deputy Prime Minister resigned, but keep in mind that she was the second-in-command of the government. She took a few swipes at the Prime Minister on her way out the door, too. Obviously, I mean figurative swipes.

We had a government that was not working well. Everything it touched turned to mud. It had the opposite of the Midas touch. As soon as something that was working well landed on the Prime Minister's desk, it turned to mud, with lots of smoke pouring out from everywhere.

There were 20 Liberal mutineers who were popular this summer. Then that number climbed to 40. It was not clear what was going on. Finally, the mutineers calmed down. Now there are eight ministers who are not running in the next election, but it does not end there. There are eight ministers that we know of who are saying they are not interested in running in the next election. They did not exactly put it that way. They came up with excuses. They see the polls and they have to turn the poll upside down to see if they are in first place. At some point, they looked at the polls and realized that things were not going their way. They started talking amongst themselves. It seems like the Prime Minister is the only one who thinks he still has a chance, but he has never been good with numbers. That might explain some things.

The Liberal Deputy Prime Minister has decided to jump ship. I feel for those folks. I saw their faces during question period. They are going through a tough time. I look at the Prime Minister and wonder whether the guy still has the confidence of his members. I think not. Does he have the confidence of his ministers? Except for a few of them, I think it is safe to say the answer is no. Does he have the confidence of the people? I think it is safe to say the answer there is also no.

The Bloc Québécois has a proposal for the Prime Minister. He remains convinced that he is the right person for the job. The proof is that he was the first head of state to visit Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago. He was barely out the door when Trump started insulting him. He called him the governor of the 51st state. If he was trying to show leadership on the international stage, it is fair to say that he missed the mark, so there is that, too.

Every time he does something, it does not work. He reminds me of the donkey that always has a dark cloud over its head in the adventures of Winnie the Pooh. If he were the only one getting wet, it would not matter so much, but he is dragging the public down with him. It is not funny.

The Bloc Québécois has been telling the government that we have a responsibility in the House. The House has been paralyzed for the past three months because the government is refusing to hand over documents. We have been talking to the government and asking it why it does not free up Parliament. The government says that it is because it does not want to hand over the documents, even though it has been ordered by the House to do so. The government does not want to hand over the documents, and Parliament is paralyzed. However, that does not bother the government because it no longer has any vision or ideas.

The only idea that the government had was the GST holiday. I think the government can let that go, calm down, take a shower and have a cup of tea. That is the only decision that the government has made, and it has been condemned by economists, Quebeckers and business owners. Everyone was against that idea. The government spent $1.6 billion on a ridiculous GST holiday.

I could tell all kinds of stories about that. It is completely ridiculous, and nobody can figure out how it works. For example, the GST exemption applies to soft dolls. A woman had a soft doll with a rigid head, so the question was what to do about that and whether the doll was exempt. It took 12 people to talk about it and figure it out. What is that all about? That is what things have come to. This is a government that does not deserve Canadians' confidence and that does not have Canadians' confidence. The Prime Minister believes otherwise.

The Bloc Québécois talks to people. We listen to them, we hear them. What we are hearing is that Quebeckers want this government out of office. The government no longer represents them. Did they ever really feel it represented them? They likely did, since the Liberals were elected. However, their expiry date has passed. What we would like is for this Prime Minister to act like a statesman, like de Gaulle. He should stand up in the House and roll up his sleeves. If he is convinced he is right, he should call an election. It is the only option he has left.

The Bloc Québécois will be there. We are going to criss-cross Quebec, we are going to talk to Liberal members and we are going to take part in debates. We are going to make Quebeckers understand that the only credible option to defend Quebec's interests in the House, the only party that looks them in the eye and only in the eye, the only party that speaks for them without compromise, the only party that knows their values and their needs, is the Bloc Québécois. We will be back in the House with a lot more MPs.

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5:10 p.m.

Winnipeg North Manitoba

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Madam Speaker, I want to pick up on something I understood the Bloc was actually fairly supportive of, and that was the idea of the tax holiday break for people in all regions of the country. It was an election platform issue for the Conservative Party. It had made a commitment, but instead of two months, it was only going to be for one month. Even the leader of the Conservative Party talked very positively about that in his tweet. Then the Conservatives changed their minds. I am wondering if the deputy leader from the Bloc can provide his thoughts in regard to that specific issue.

Does he believe it benefits the people of Quebec and, in fact, the people of Canada to give them this tax break during the holiday season?

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5:10 p.m.

Bloc

Alain Therrien Bloc La Prairie, QC

Madam Speaker, I must commend the Liberal member for his courage. He rises quite often to speak. I think he holds the record for the number of speeches given, and I sincerely commend him for that.

Eliminating the GST on certain products cannot be done willy-nilly like that. It does not sit well with people. In Quebec, almost everyone feels that way. People do not like that, and businesses are tearing their hair out over this two-month measure. Taxes are going to be taken off some products, but we are still not entirely sure which products the measure covers. Two months later, the government is going to reapply the tax. I think it cost the public treasury $1.6 billion. They say that people will benefit from this measure, but we need to know who is going to benefit. Who is going to benefit the most from these one-time exemptions? It will not be the people in greatest need, the people who need more help from the government. They are not the ones who stand to benefit. In economics, this is called a regressive measure. It is not a good measure.

At some point, the government has to take the public money contributed by taxpaying Quebeckers and Canadians. Before that money even reaches their pockets the government takes it away. We need a more serious approach. The Liberals are managing things haphazardly and they could have done better. We have a few suggestions for them. All they have to do is listen.

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5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Gérard Deltell Conservative Louis-Saint-Laurent, QC

Madam Speaker, it is always nice to hear from my Bloc Québécois colleague, with whom I had the pleasure, honour and dignity of sitting in the National Assembly years ago. I hope we can continue serving together in the future.

The member did a great job giving an overview of what happened today, which is completely ridiculous and embarrassing for all Canadians and Quebeckers. I am of course referring to when this government's second-in-command decided to leave, literally slamming the door on her way out. Today, we had government members who arrived late with a piece of paper, tabled it and then refused to have the necessary debate. My colleague gave a very good description of the problems with the GST, among other things. As far as I can remember, this is the first time that a government has made a so-called tax cut and gotten pummelled for it. I have never seen that in any democracy.

Why has the Bloc Québécois maintained its confidence over the past few years and voted in favour of the government's inflationary deficits more than 190 times? Just last week, when it had nothing—

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NDP

The Assistant Deputy Speaker NDP Carol Hughes

We are running out of time, and I have to allow the hon. member for La Prairie to respond.

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Bloc

Alain Therrien Bloc La Prairie, QC

Madam Speaker, listening to the beginning of my colleague's intervention, even I was convinced that he was ready to come knock on doors in my riding so that I could win. I like my colleague a lot, and I could picture what a fun time we would have together.

I have a very simple challenge for the member. Every time the Bloc Québécois voted, it voted in the interest of Quebec and only in the interest of Quebec.

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Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

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Bloc

Alain Therrien Bloc La Prairie, QC

Madam Speaker, they are mad because they know that I am right. They should listen to me and let me speak.

I challenge him to pick any Bloc Québécois vote from any time, look at the bill we were voting on, and think about Quebec's interests. He will see that the Bloc Québécois always voted in the interest of Quebec and only in the interest of Quebec. We are always on the right track. I will never be ashamed of my decisions. Take any bill that I have voted on. I can say that I will not be embarrassed about how I voted on it. I can talk to my constituents without blushing. I can look anyone in the eye and tell them that they can be sure the Bloc Québécois is there for them.

We make no compromises. We have a clear conscience, and we are proud of what we are accomplishing here.

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5:15 p.m.

Bloc

Yves Perron Bloc Berthier—Maskinongé, QC

Madam Speaker, I would like to ask my colleague to look at the situation that the Canadian government is currently in from someone else's perspective, for example, someone from another country.

What are his thoughts on that?

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Bloc

Alain Therrien Bloc La Prairie, QC

Madam Speaker, it is rather disheartening. Take, for example, the Prime Minister's visit to see Donald Trump.

What did other world leaders think when the Prime Minister had no comeback to being called the governor of the 51st state?

Do members really believe that this is the kind of international representation that Quebeckers and Canadians deserve?

The answer is simple: We deserve better.

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5:15 p.m.

Bloc

Gabriel Ste-Marie Bloc Joliette, QC

Madam Speaker, today in the House, the government tabled the 2024 fall economic statement. Whose economic statement is it, exactly? Did the former finance minister, who announced her resignation this morning, draft it? I am not sure, because she chose to resign rather than endorse it. Is it the economic statement of the new finance minister, who was probably just sworn in moments ago and was the Minister of Public Safety? Has he even read it?

It was the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons who came to table the document in the House, without making a speech or delivering the speech that was probably already prepared. Does the government House leader endorse this economic statement, given that she decided to table it but did bother getting up to defend it? In a few minutes, will the now Minister of Finance, who was the Minister of Public Safety, come in and defend this document? Does he know how many pages it has? Does he know what is on the cover? Has he held it in his hands? We do not know.

This statement is obviously very disappointing, even if we do not know who wrote it. Perhaps it was the Prime Minister, but we do not know. One thing is certain, this statement does not tell us much. This government has run out of steam and has little direction. It is a bit like a rudderless ship with a torn sail, and its only hope is to rely on a lucky star to get it where it needs to go. That is what it feels like, reading this document. We do not know whose responsibility it is at the moment, because no one is defending it.

There are two interesting numbers in this document. There is the deficit for the current year, but, most importantly, the fall statement—which is more like a sad Christmas statement, the Christmas of a grinch government, we might say—includes the amount of last year's deficit. We finally have the figure for last year's deficit. We can read that amount in this document. To reassure the economic class in English Canada and the economic interests of Canada, the former finance minister said she would put in a fiscal anchor. She said it was true that they kept exceeding the deficit since 2015, that they kept spending too much, that they would set an anchor at $40 billion and that we had her word.

Last year's deficit is $61.9 billion. We found that out just before leaving for the holidays in a document tabled at the last minute and defended by who knows who. Why? Because the government still has not tabled the public accounts. They are usually tabled in September, but I think we are not going to get them before the end of this year. It will surely be in the first sitting days of next year. If not, there is still tomorrow. We are talking about a $61.9-billion deficit for last year. The former finance minister, however, hand on her heart, said it would be $40 billion, that it was time to stop spending money left and right, and that we had her word.

Now, she has stepped down and we are seeing that last year's deficit was $61.9 billion. What will it be this year? The year is not over yet. As the House leader of the Bloc Québécois was saying a few moments ago, there are still three and half months left in the year and the government has already exceeded the $40-billion mark, despite a solemn promise to the contrary. The deficit is now just over $48 billion. I am anxious to see what it will be at the end of March. When will we find out? Will it be next Christmas or after the election? That is how lax the current government is. That is what we have been seeing. This is truly ridiculous. It makes no sense. This economic statement is going to go down in history for all the wrong reasons. The former finance minister chose to step down rather than endorse this economic statement, which discredits everything the government has done.

The government made a commitment. Apart from the appalling figures, that is about all we saw. We were told that a border plan would be presented. That did not happen in this document. It is not a plan, it is a number. It says $1.3 billion for the borders over the next six years. Why $1.3 billion? Because, converted into U.S. dollars, that is $1 billion. President-elect Trump will be happy; $1 billion is good. We tried to grill officials a bit by asking what the money will be used for. Will it be for drones, guards, helicopters?

There is no plan. Officials said that they would put a number on it and that, eventually, there would be a plan. The former finance minister wrote that, but she resigned so she would not have to endorse it, and the new Minister of Finance has no idea what is in the document. It is really embarrassing. Why did the minister resign? It is because she had promised not to exceed $40 billion, but her government keeps resorting to vote-buying measures, like the $1.64 billion for the GST break. That is in there.

The government is going further into debt to give people gifts in hopes of boosting its standing in the polls, but it is not working. Meanwhile, all the business owners are having to adjust to this, for just two months. It makes no sense. People think it is not significant enough to make them change their spending choices. When we look at the items that are zero-rated, there are some good ones, such as diapers and children's clothing, but the focus seems to be on restaurants, alcohol and junk food. Is that responsible? The Prime Minister announced that he wanted to send $250 cheques to everyone earning up to $150,000 net income, which amounts to $270,000 gross income per year, but not to people who really need it. He thought this would give him a boost in the polls. In the end, he is all alone. I do not think there is a single line in that statement about the infamous cheques. The measure has simply been forgotten and will never be mentioned again.

Another thing missing from the economic statement is capital gains. Members will recall that the government said in its last budget that it would be implementing this measure to try to balance the books. That was supposed to happen in June 2024. There was a notice of ways and means, but ultimately it was no good. No bill ever followed. Then we were told about another notice of ways and means, but ultimately, it also failed and was never introduced. I was really looking forward to going in camera to read this document and find out the details.

When are we going to get to see the details? There is not a single line about that either. We know that it amounts to $7 billion this year. If this measure is not implemented, it means another $7 billion will be added to the deficit. That is not to mention all the businesses and individuals who made decisions based on this measure. Frankly, none of it makes any sense. This government is a ship drifting off course with no rudder and no sail. I think that, out of respect, as the former finance minister said in her letter to the Prime Minister, we must work for the public first, ahead of party and personal interests. In the interests of the common good, an election must be called, because right now we see nothing but an endless parade of debacles, ineptitude and infighting.

There are a few measures in the economic statement, but nothing really new or meaningful. It is mostly about extending programs. The bulk of the spending it sets out is for 2028, 2029 and 2030, at the end of the next term in office or after that. The minister must have thought that the Liberals would win a majority government because it seems the Liberals were already planning what they will do in the final years of that majority term. As the House leader of the Bloc Québécois was saying earlier, St. Jude is the patron saint of hopeless causes. I think that, at this point, the government should go light some candles to ask for help from St. Jude, although even St. Jude no longer has confidence in this government.

In the meantime, the needs are there. What is more, some needs, such as supply management, would not cost the government anything. The supply management bill is still stuck in the Senate. Are we ever going to see it pass? Is the government doing its job? No, it is not. The religious exemption for hate speech would not cost a penny. It is urgently needed, considering what we are seeing in the streets, considering what is happening, yet the government is not doing anything to eliminate it. The help we wanted for seniors aged 65 to 74 would have cost half as much as the election goodies that the government is proposing, and it would have been a game-changer. We can say the same thing about social housing, where there are still significant needs. None of that was addressed. We expected a plan for protecting the border, but there was nothing. Then there are all the challenges with Canada-U.S. relations and EI reform. The government completely neglected all of those concerns.

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5:25 p.m.

Winnipeg North Manitoba

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Madam Speaker, we have known, for years now, the Conservative Party's approach to the minority government. The Conservatives have been wanting and calling for an election for well over two years now. What we have seen is that the Bloc has kind of coalesced and is working with the Conservatives more and more; it too would like to see an election. It is fine if the Bloc members want to adopt that attitude, but with respect to saying there is nothing in the fall economic statement in terms of important issues, exempting the Canada disability benefit from taxes is a very positive measure that is in the statement.

If the member and, in particular, Conservatives want to focus on the debt, let them take a look at the public debt charges since 1981 and compare them to the GDP, which is so critically important. Could the member provide his thoughts on comparing the debt to Canada's GDP?

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5:25 p.m.

Bloc

Gabriel Ste-Marie Bloc Joliette, QC

Madam Speaker, the government is handing out election goodies by eliminating the GST for two months. This measure will benefit the wealthy when they go out to eat or buy alcohol. When the government presented this measure, we saw that it was a pre-election move that would benefit the wealthy and that it was not the right approach to take. That is the new measure set out in the economic statement.

This morning, we learned that the former finance minister called this a political gimmick, so she agrees with us. We are not forming a coalition against the government with all of the other parties. Even the former finance minister is speaking out about these pre-election gimmicks that are designed to buy votes, which is unacceptable.

As for the deficit, the former minister admitted that her government has spent record amounts since 2015. To reassure the markets, she set an anchor that was exceeded by over 50% for the year coming to and end. However, we are only finding out about that at the end of the year because the government did not table the public accounts. The current year is not over yet and they have already blown through their fiscal anchor for this year. That is unacceptable and inexcusable. Let us fix this with an election.

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5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Jacques Gourde Conservative Lévis—Lotbinière, QC

Madam Speaker, I listened carefully to my colleague's speech, and I am very pleased that he has come to exactly the same conclusion as the Conservative Party. We need an election as soon as possible. We have been calling for an election for almost a year now.

Can my colleague assure us, hand on heart, that as of today, he will always support the Conservative Party in every confidence vote that will take place in the House so that Canada can finally be free from the political chaos that we are currently experiencing?

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5:30 p.m.

Bloc

Gabriel Ste-Marie Bloc Joliette, QC

Madam Speaker, I thank my colleague for his kind words, but I must correct the record.

The mandate that my Bloc Québécois colleagues and I have was not given to us by the Conservative Party or by Conservative voters. We were all elected in our ridings to come here and be the voice of Quebec. Every time we stand up, we are thinking about the people in our ridings and in Quebec, whom we hold in our hearts. Every time we speak, every time we vote, every time we make a decision, every time we make a choice, it is always in the best interests of the people we love and represent: the people of Quebec. With every vote, every decision and every piece of legislation, we will always act with that in mind.

As our leader often says, if it is good for Quebec, we vote for it. If it is bad for Quebec, we vote against it. When we can, we improve bills in the interest of Quebec. We often do. That work is done behind the scenes, but it pays off.

Given what is happening, with the Liberal ship adrift, we feel that it is in Quebec's best interest to settle this issue in an election.

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December 16th, 2024 / 5:30 p.m.

Bloc

Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe Bloc Lac-Saint-Jean, QC

Madam Speaker, I want to thank my colleague for his excellent speech and, most of all, for the excellent answer he just gave to our Conservative colleague.

Is the government doing something different in the 2024 fall economic statement when it comes to the oil and gas industry? Has it suddenly decided, in this economic statement, to give less money to the oil industry by way of subsidies and tax credits?

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5:30 p.m.

Bloc

Gabriel Ste-Marie Bloc Joliette, QC

Madam Speaker, nothing has changed.

The former minister came up with an $83-billion plan that essentially targeted the oil and gas industry. The striptease continues, and the statement comes up short on new details. For example, the government is now explaining how it plans to support hydrogen production from methane. It says that this is good for the environment. In truth, it is really about supporting oil sands, oil and natural gas. The government's striptease on this topic continues under false pretenses, with a fake green veneer, when urgent action is called for. We have already passed the 1.5°C target and the other targets that were set, and now we are seeing what changes that has brought on.

The government needs to do a lot more, but by all indications, it is doing nothing.

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5:30 p.m.

NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

Madam Speaker, on the occasion of the 2024 fall economic statement, it is clear that Canada is at a crossroads. Many Canadians are struggling and uncertain about their and their families' futures. We are facing multiple, overlapping crises that require immediate and decisive action from the federal government, yet we are watching a Liberal government in complete disarray, out of ideas, flailing with gimmickry and unable to implement a coherent, effective plan to address these challenges.

We are also seeing a Conservative opposition that has reduced these complex issues to nursery rhymes, able to only muster bumper-sticker slogans to the most challenging problems facing Canadians. They are proposing outdated policies that not only will not work but caused many of the structural problems we are seeing today in the first place. They will cut the services Canadians need, reward their corporate backers and create untold damage to working and middle-class Canadians.

Let us review the major crises facing Canadians as a result of successive Conservative and Liberal governments. The cost of living crisis continues to escalate, with millions of people struggling to make ends meet. The cost of essentials such as rent and food have increased by over 20% and 21% over the last three years. Fully half of all Canadians are living paycheque to paycheque, and one in four parents have cut back on their own food consumption to ensure their children have enough to eat. The rising costs of staples such as home heating, telecommunications and transportation are straining household budgets, making it virtually impossible for families to save for the future or handle unexpected expenses.

Eighty per cent of Canadians now believe that owning a home in Canada is only for the rich. Among those who do not own a home, over 70% have given up on ever owning one. In major cities across Canada, tenants are regularly paying over 50% of their income on shelter, which is a crippling and unsustainable burden.

Income inequality in Canada has hit the highest level ever recorded. The top 20% of Canadians hold more than two-thirds of the country's wealth, averaging $3.4 million per household. By comparison, the bottom 40% of Canadians own only 2.8% of our country's wealth. At the same time, the top 5% of income earners paid a lower overall tax rate in 2022 than the bottom 95%, with the top 1% paying an even lower rate. Welcome to Conservative and Liberal tax policy.

After decades of federal underfunding, Canada's health care system is under serious strain with long wait times, inadequate access to essential services and high levels of burnout among health care workers. Millions of Canadians do not have a family doctor, which is critical to accessing our health care system. I remember campaigning with Jack Layton in 2008 when he pointed out that five million Canadians had no family doctor. We then saw, for the next seven years, a Conservative government under Stephen Harper, and here we are, nine years after that, under the current Prime Minister, and there are more Canadians today who do not have a family doctor after those decades of Conservative and Liberal government in this country.

Thousands of Canadians continue to be harmed by the toxic drug crisis without timely access to publicly funded treatment facilities and other life-saving services. Canada is facing a serious mental health care shortage, with wait times for mental health services especially long for children and youth.

The urgency of climate action cannot be overstated. By 2025, the previous 10 years of climate change will have reduced Canada's GDP by an estimated $25 billion. Without concerted action, by 2030 GDP will be an estimated $35 billion lower than it would have been otherwise, and by 2055 it will be an estimated $100 billion lower. When the Conservatives come talking about the price of the carbon tax, we should ask them what the cost of inaction in dealing with the climate crisis is. It is multiple billions more than the action to deal with it.

Moreover, when governments are forced to cover the costs of climate change by rebuilding damaged infrastructure, paying for increased health care costs and fixing damages from weather-related disasters, including compensating farmers for lost agricultural products, capital is diverted from activities that would drive additional growth.

Youth unemployment in Canada hit 14.5% in August. That is the highest level since 2012, outside the COVID-19 pandemic. Some one million Canadians under 29 are without jobs or training today, as we speak. That is an issue of intergenerational inequity that Deloitte estimates will cost our economy $18.5 billion over the next decade, never mind the cost in broken dreams and shattered lives.

Enhancing productivity is vital for economic growth and competitiveness. However, spending on machinery and equipment by businesses, and on research, development, innovation and training, has been falling as a share of Canada's GDP for decades. Actually, it has been since 2000, and this is despite the large corporate tax cuts introduced at the turn of the century and promoted by both Conservative and Liberal governments. With rapid job creation and population growth, business capital investment has not kept up.

Despite its commitments, the federal government is failing to achieve reconciliation with indigenous peoples. Indigenous housing, water and infrastructure are in perilous conditions. The lack of progress on nation-to-nation governance and the stripping of wealth from indigenous territories have resulted in poverty rates and incarceration levels among indigenous people that are nothing short of shameful. The government has failed to fully implement the Truth and Reconciliation Commission's calls for action and the calls for justice from the National Inquiry into Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women and Girls.

New Democrats believe that these crises and other priorities demand urgent and comprehensive action to ensure a prosperous, fair and sustainable future for all Canadians. However, this fall's economic statement has demonstrated once again that the Liberals are out of touch and unable to respond to the realities that Canadians are experiencing. What they have offered today is totally unresponsive to the crises facing our country. They are simply too weak, too self-interested, too full of infighting and too beholden to corporate interests to fight for people.

On the other hand, the Conservatives offer no solutions, only a discredited agenda of cuts to the services people rely on, and tax breaks for their friends and the ultrawealthy. They are happy to reinforce disingenuous and insulting characterizations of our country from foreign leaders like Donald Trump, while ignoring the real needs and challenges faced by Canadians. The Conservative approach undermines our values and fails to provide the support and investment required to build a fairer, more prosperous society.

When he was senator, Joe Biden famously said, “Don’t tell me what you value. Show me your budget, and I’ll tell you what you value.” Liberal and Conservative values are very clear to Canadians who have been paying attention to the federal government for the last 25 years. They continually, consistently prioritize the interests of the wealthy and corporate sector over the interests of working and middle-class Canadians. New Democrats say that is wrong, and there is a better way.

For our part, New Democrats are proposing a robust set of policies designed to tackle these challenges head-on. Let us review some of the key NDP proposals that ought to have been included in the fall economic statement.

With millions of Canadians struggling to make ends meet, the NDP pledged to permanently remove the GST from daily essentials and monthly bills, such as all grocery store items; Internet, home phone and cellphone bills; home heating; and diapers and children's clothing. We believe that Canadians deserve a tax cut that will bring immediate and permanent relief.

The GST is a structurally regressive tax that puts a burden on many Canadian households, particularly those who do not receive any rebate. By making it permanent, the NDP knows that Canadians can count on a predictable reduction in costs of 5% on the bills they face every month and cannot avoid, with a measure that businesses can easily administer.

Unfortunately, last week, both the Conservatives and the Liberals voted no to the NDP's motion to permanently scrap the GST on daily essentials and monthly bills. Axe the tax indeed. It seems the only tax the Conservatives want to axe is when it is given to the corporate sector, but when there is a tax cut proposed by the NDP for working and middle-class Canadians, they vote no. That is a shame. This is a prime illustration of what Senator Biden, now President Biden, meant and of where Liberal and Conservative priorities really lie and where their values really are.

New Democrats believe that a youth climate corps would help address both the climate emergency and Canada's youth employment crisis by providing young people with the skills and job experience they need. The NDP's youth climate corps would provide participants with a decent wage and practical training while they engage in work across three critical areas: first, emergency response in the face of extreme weather events such as wildfires, flooding and heat domes; second, strengthening community and environmental resilience to climate change by enhancing natural ecosystems, improving local infrastructure and strengthening community supports in anticipation of climate disruptions; and third, building infrastructure that drives down greenhouse gas emissions. This measure will be of particular assistance in Canada's rural and remote areas, places that especially need our support and development.

New Democrats believe that the federal government should accelerate and expand the Canada public transit fund to enhance public transportation infrastructure across the country. We also have proposed the establishment of a Crown corporation to enhance and make sure that people in rural and remote areas have regular intercity bus service between their communities and major urban centres, because they deserve public transportation as well. By investing in public transit, we can reduce traffic congestion, lower greenhouse gas emissions and provide Canadians with reliable and affordable transportation options.

After decades of neglect, the federal government must support the construction of non-market housing of all types, including community, non-profit and co-operative housing, at the scale and speed needed to meaningfully address the housing crisis. I am shocked to not see profound investment in this area in the fall economic statement.

New Democrats believe we should begin by doubling the percentage of Canada's non-market housing stock to meet the OECD average, which, shockingly, we fall significantly below. By increasing the availability of affordable housing, we can alleviate the burden on low- and middle-income families, reduce homelessness and ensure that all Canadians have access to safe and stable housing. By substantially increasing the amount of non-market housing stock, we can also reduce demand in the market supply, which will reduce market prices and make home ownership available to more Canadians.

The federal government must also take immediate steps to end the financialization of housing, such as by ending the tax exemption for real estate investment trusts. This measure will help curb speculative investments in the housing market, ensuring that homes are treated as places to live, rather than commodities to make money from.

It is trite to say that a healthy population is essential for economic success. The federal government must take strong action to protect our public health care system by enhancing patient care, reversing privatization and addressing the health human resources crisis. Federal funding transfers must be tied to the public delivery of health care services, and the Canada Health Act must be robustly enforced in the face of attacks from Conservative premiers who want to gut public services and privatize delivery, both of which will make health care more expensive and less available to all.

The federal government should also fulfill its commitment to establish a dedicated mental health transfer and provide targeted funding to expand desperately needed mental health services across the country. Mental health is as vital as is physical health. It is also essential to expand access to public addictions treatment and other life-saving services, addressing the urgent needs of those affected by the toxic drug crisis and other substance-use disorders.

On the revenue side, New Democrats believe fair taxation is essential to providing revenue for the services Canadians depend on and to ensuring a sustainable fiscal framework. We note that the former finance minister blew through two of her three so-called financial guardrails, both last year and this year, and likely next year as well. This is because Liberals refuse to address fair taxation in this country.

A key component of this is an excess profits tax on large corporations that have abused their monopoly positions in the marketplace and taken advantage of Canadians. Since 2021, increased corporate profit margins have significantly contributed to high levels of inflation and growing income inequality across the country. Despite the normalization of supply chains and easing of shortages today, Canadian corporations have maintained stratospheric profit levels and sky-high prices on everything from food to energy and rent.

To add insult to injury, inflated profits have not translated into increased investment in the Canadian economy. Instead, they have largely been used for share repurchases and dividends, without contributing to wage growth or productive investment. Despite large corporate tax cuts and other corporate-friendly policies, Canadian businesses have demonstrably failed to invest in the machinery, equipment, innovation and training that are so needed to set the basis for increased Canadian productivity. New Democrats believe it is time we tied all corporate incentivization programs to clear commitments to invest in the Canadian economy.

Advancing indigenous reconciliation is both a moral and economic imperative. According to a recent report from the Assembly of First Nations and Indigenous Services Canada, it will cost $349 billion to close the indigenous infrastructure gap by 2030. However, the report also found that closing that infrastructure gap could generate $635 billion in economic output over the next seven years.

Increased funding for education, health care, housing, infrastructure and clean water in indigenous communities, supporting indigenous land rights and self-governance and implementing the Truth and Reconciliation Commission's calls to action and the National Inquiry into Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women and Girls' calls for justice will help us unlock the potential that exists in Canada's indigenous communities.

Recent developments in the United States make it clear that Canada needs a comprehensive green industrial policy and a resilient trade strategy to secure our long-term economic prosperity and sustainability. This shift will not only help Canada meet its climate goals but also create high-quality jobs and stimulate economic growth. A renewed trade policy would protect Canadian industries from the volatility of international shock and external pressures, making Canada more self-reliant.

As the COVID-19 pandemic highlighted, Canada currently lacks the capacity to produce essential items during a time of crisis, such as masks, ventilators and vaccines, underscoring the need for greater self-sufficiency to critical sectors. The recent comments from the president-elect south of the border provided us with a historic opportunity to diversify our trade markets, including in Europe and Asia-Pacific, taking better advantage of CETA and trade agreements that include Asian tigers like Japan and South Korea.

They also should compel us to embark on a serious made-in-Canada policy, using government procurement measures and incentives geared to national self-sufficiency in key areas. If the United States can have a buy America program, so should Canada have a buy Canadian program.

The crises we face are daunting, but they are not insurmountable. With bold, progressive and forward-thinking policies, we can build a stronger, fairer economy that benefits all Canadians. New Democrats believe in a Canada where everyone can thrive, where science and compassion are at the heart of our policies and where we invest in our future to build an equitable, sustainable society.

We are ready to lead with a vision that puts people first.