Madam Speaker, obviously, I realize that my hon. colleague could not answer the question of how much money crony culture has kicked back between the Liberal and Conservative parties. We must consider that Ms. Verschuren, the chair of SDTC, was able to kick back lots and lots of money through conflicts of interest to herself and her company, then kick that money over to the Liberals and to the Conservative Party. She donated to the Conservative Party over a dozen times, even during the time she was chair.
I know the member may deflect, but I think it is an important question for Canadians: How much do you think Ms. Verschuren kicked back in donations to the Conservative Party?