Mr. Speaker, the member just made my point, because cap and trade is actually a price on pollution. That is exactly the point.
In the case of Quebec, they do have a cap and trade system. In the case of Ontario, until 2018, we introduced a plan that was a cap and trade system. The mechanism is the same, which is to put a price on pollution. He could speak to any economist; in fact the economists were probably advising the member and telling him that it is the most efficient way, the most effective way to actually reduce the use of a pollutant.
They need to come up with a credible plan and not campaign on slogans. It is not going to work.