House of Commons Hansard #307 of the 44th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was atlantic.

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Notification of Members Following Foreign Interference Members discuss cyber-attacks by APT31 targeting MPs and question Parliament IT's decision not to notify affected members about unsuccessful attacks, calling for a review of notification protocols. 1000 words, 10 minutes.

Canada—Newfoundland and Labrador Atlantic Accord Implementation Act Third reading of Bill C-49. The bill C-49 amends the Atlantic Accord acts to include offshore renewable energy alongside oil and gas, aiming to modernize the regulatory regime and enable development in Newfoundland and Labrador and Nova Scotia. While supporters see it as a crucial step for clean energy investment and jobs, critics argue it lacks adequate consultation with the fishing industry and creates uncertainty for existing sectors, with one party calling it greenwashing. 26900 words, 3 hours in 2 segments: 1 2.

Statements by Members

Question Period

The Conservatives heavily criticize the government's hard drug decriminalization policy in B.C., demanding the government make it illegal to smoke drugs in public spaces like hospitals and asking if the policy will expand to Toronto. They also condemn the government's wasteful spending and raise allegations of corruption involving a Liberal minister.
The Liberals discuss collaboration with B.C. on concerns regarding the opioid decriminalization pilot. They highlight Budget 2024 investments in dental care, housing, research, and fighting climate change. They also mention supporting the French language and combatting hate.
The Bloc wants to protect Quebec culture and Radio-Canada from CBC merger. They denounce federal parties for disrespecting Quebec's jurisdiction and refusing the right to opt out. They also criticize increased GHG emissions and the Trans Mountain pipeline.
The NDP criticize Liberals for missing climate targets and enabling corporate greed with ongoing corporate giveaways while people face high costs. They also highlight rail safety concerns.
The Green Party criticizes the government for breaking promises on UNDRIP and environmental law in their budget bill.

Combating Motor Vehicle Theft Act Second reading of Bill C-379. The bill proposes increased mandatory minimum sentences for third-time auto theft offenders, especially when tied to organized crime. While proponents say it deters crime, critics argue mandatory minimum penalties do not work and stress the need for other measures like addressing organized crime, combating exporting stolen vehicles, boosting CBSA resources, and requiring auto manufacturers to improve security. 9100 words, 1 hour.

National Defence Members debate a Standing Committee on National Defence report urging the government to cancel recent rent increases for Canadian Armed Forces housing on bases. They discuss the impact of rising costs and poor housing conditions on military recruitment and retention, with Conservatives criticizing the government's funding and approach, while NDP members raise concerns about procedural delays and reliance on contractors. Liberals highlight budget allocations but face criticism for the state of housing. The vote is deferred. 15100 words, 2 hours.

Adjournment Debates

Ship Breaking in Union Bay Gord Johns raises concerns about unregulated ship breaking in Union Bay, threatening a sensitive ecosystem. He says the federal government is missing in action, despite provincial and First Nations concerns. Mike Kelloway says Canada supports safe ship recycling and has strong regulations, but that provinces have primary jurisdiction.
Classified Information Leak Inquiry Michael Cooper demands to know which top Liberal leaked classified CSIS information, potentially undermining national security. Mike Kelloway emphasizes the government's commitment to addressing foreign interference, protecting classified information, and letting security services do their work, while avoiding discussion of unsubstantiated information.
Indigenous resource development Jeremy Patzer accuses the Liberals of harming Indigenous workers through the "just transition". Mike Kelloway cites the indigenous loan guarantee program as a counter-example, and criticizes Conservative opposition. Patzer promotes the first nations resource charge. Kelloway touts indigenous-led projects.
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Government Response to PetitionsRoutine Proceedings

10:05 a.m.

Winnipeg North Manitoba

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Mr. Speaker, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8)(a), I have the honour to table, in both official languages, the government's response to 10 petitions. These returns will be tabled in an electronic format.

While I am on my feet, I move:

That the House do now proceed to orders of the day.

Government Response to PetitionsRoutine Proceedings

10:05 a.m.

The Speaker Greg Fergus

If a member participating in person wishes that the motion be carried or carried on division, or if a member of a recognized party participating in person wishes to request a recorded division, I would invite them to rise and indicate it to the Chair.

Government Response to PetitionsRoutine Proceedings

10:05 a.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Mr. Speaker, we request a recorded vote.

Government Response to PetitionsRoutine Proceedings

10:05 a.m.

The Speaker Greg Fergus

Call in the members.

Before the Clerk announced the results of the vote:

Government Response to PetitionsRoutine Proceedings

10:45 a.m.

Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L'Érable, QC

Madam Speaker, I would like to ask you to verify the photo of the member for Papineau. His face is not visible. I would like you to check with the clerks to see whether his vote counts.

Government Response to PetitionsRoutine Proceedings

10:45 a.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker Carol Hughes

I am not sure whether the hon. member for Papineau is online. If not, his vote does not count.

(The House divided on the motion, which was agreed to on the following division:)

Vote #748

Government Response to PetitionsRoutine Proceedings

10:45 a.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker Carol Hughes

I declare the motion carried.

Government Response to PetitionsRoutine Proceedings

10:45 a.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order.

The decision of the government to proceed to the orders of the day prevents the presentation of private members' bills. I have an important private member's bill on Ukraine and munitions. I wonder if there would be unanimous consent to allow members of all parties, if they have private members' bills, to table them now.

Government Response to PetitionsRoutine Proceedings

10:45 a.m.

Some hon. members

No.

Government Response to PetitionsRoutine Proceedings

10:45 a.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker Carol Hughes

I already hear “no”. I am assuming that the member—

Government Response to PetitionsRoutine Proceedings

10:45 a.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

Government Response to PetitionsRoutine Proceedings

10:45 a.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker Carol Hughes

Order. I just want to remind members that they maybe want to have a conversation with other members ahead of time before asking for unanimous consent. That way they will be more successful in their attempts.

I also want to remind members that the House is in session and that if they wish to have conversations to please take them outside, because I have trouble hearing what is going on.

Budget Implementation Act, 2024, No. 1Ways and MeansGovernment Orders

10:50 a.m.

Liberal

Steven Guilbeault Liberal Laurier—Sainte-Marie, QC

moved that a ways and means motion to introduce a bill entitled An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on April 16, 2024, be concurred in.

Budget Implementation Act, 2024, No. 1Ways and MeansGovernment Orders

10:50 a.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker Carol Hughes

If a member participating in person wishes that the motion be carried or carried on division, or if a member of a recognized party participating in person wishes to request a recorded division, I would invite them to rise and indicate it to the Chair.

Budget Implementation Act, 2024, No. 1Ways and MeansGovernment Orders

May 2nd, 2024 / 10:50 a.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Madam Speaker, we would request a recorded vote.

Budget Implementation Act, 2024, No. 1Ways and MeansGovernment Orders

10:50 a.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker Carol Hughes

Call in the members.

(The House divided on the motion, which was agreed to on the following division:)

Vote #749

Ways and MeansGovernment Orders

11:35 a.m.

The Deputy Speaker Chris d'Entremont

I declare the motion carried.

Bill C-69 Ways and MeansGovernment Orders

11:35 a.m.

Liberal

Steven Guilbeault Liberal Laurier—Sainte-Marie, QC

moved that Bill C-69, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on April 16, 2024, be read the first time and printed.

(Motion deemed adopted, bill read the first time and printed)

Notification of Members Following Foreign InterferencePrivilegeGovernment Orders

11:35 a.m.

Liberal

John McKay Liberal Scarborough—Guildwood, ON

Mr. Speaker, I am rising on a question of privilege that was raised by the member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan on Monday. He and I, and my hon. colleague here, belong to a group called IPAC. It is an international group, the Inter-Parliamentary Alliance on China, and it appears we have attracted some unwanted attention.

Last Wednesday, the member and I were on a call with IPAC in London and were advised of this form of cyber-attack. I am at an age and stage when I do not pretend to understand exactly what they were talking about, but I am given to understand that a group called APT31, or Advanced Persistent Threat 31, was conducting cyber-attacks against some colleagues here and indeed around the world.

The only reason we found out about it was that the FBI was conducting a surveillance operation a couple of years ago, and we were caught up in that surveillance operation. That was a couple of years ago, so the question becomes this: Why did we not know about it? IPAC contacted the U.S. Department of Justice and asked why we did not know about it.

The U.S. Department of Justice did notify the relevant nations, sovereignty to sovereignty. IPAC then compared the FBI list with its own list, and the member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, myself and my colleague here were on that list. The question becomes this: How come we did not know about it?

Since then, we have been advised that the FBI did notify the Canada Security Establishment, or CSE, and CSE, in turn, notified Parliament, or the IT service that runs Parliament. A security check was run in a timely fashion, and the good news is that the system we have here was not breached. In that respect, it worked.

However, at that point, a decision was made to not notify the affected members of Parliament and the affected senators; I think there are about 13 of us in total. That is a bit more problematic, so this is why I support the member's privilege question because I do think this needs to be investigated.

I am given to understand that there are literally hundreds of thousands of attacks on our IT system on a daily basis, literally a massive volume, and it becomes difficult to know, when attacks are unsuccessful, when and how and if members should be notified because our inboxes could be literally filled on a daily basis with notifications of attacks.

On the other hand, if I, as a member who is interested in security matters and defence matters, have an unusual volume of attacks or if other members, for other reasons, have unusual volumes or patterns of attacks, then that seems to be quite relevant to the interests of those individual members.

The reason I am supporting the hon. member's question of privilege is that we need to start to review these protocols, and do it sooner rather than later. I want to make the point that this is not a government issue; this is a Parliament issue.

The government did its job, so to speak, in that CSE reported it to our security services and the people who run them. However, I believe that PROC needs to look at this. It needs to review the sequence of events to make sure that, as I am describing it to the House, they were correct; to examine the decisions that were made when the information became available to Canadian authorities; and to review whether this is the kind of information that should be shared with members and, if so, in what format, how frequently, etc.

I do not think we can take this very lightly. The analogy I have drawn in the past has been that it is like somebody looking at one's mail in the post office. I think we would all be pretty upset with somebody examining our mail. It is a bit of an exaggeration to say that, but it gives the sense in which the emails that are coming into our offices need to have security not only for ourselves but also for our correspondents and our constituents. These are significant volumes of emails.

I just want to raise what I believe is a question of privilege. I hope the Speaker finds it to be a question of privilege and asks the member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan to move the relevant motion.

As I said, this is a significant issue. The chamber needs to deal with it in a timely sort of way; I hope PROC ultimately does as well.

Notification of Members Following Foreign InterferencePrivilegeGovernment Orders

11:40 a.m.

Liberal

Judy Sgro Liberal Humber River—Black Creek, ON

Madam Speaker, on the same question of privilege, I just want to add my comments to those of both of my colleagues, who are the co-chairs for Canada on the IPAC organization.

I do not believe it ends there. I want to see this go forward. It is great that the firewall held and nothing was penetrated. However, if these attacks are happening, as members of Parliament, we need to be briefed better than we currently are. If there is any overabundance of attacks on my system for some particular reason, I would like to know that.

I appreciate the fact that the firewall held up, but it is a question of where we go from here. If we are getting thousands of attacks every day, all parliamentarians need to be more aware and make sure that we are doing what we need to do to protect ourselves. I also think that the parliamentarians who were under surveillance from various areas need to know that to protect themselves.

I do not think it should change the fact that many of us stand up on files on human rights issues that we care about. I would not want to see intimidation be a factor in stopping us from doing our jobs.

I believe that the more information we have, the better informed we are and the better we are able to protect ourselves and our citizens.

Notification of Members Following Foreign InterferencePrivilegeGovernment Orders

11:45 a.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker Carol Hughes

I appreciate the hon. members' interventions. We will certainly take that under consideration as we deliberate on bringing back a statement on this.

Bill C-49 Speaker's RulingCanada—Newfoundland and Labrador Atlantic Accord Implementation ActGovernment Orders

11:45 a.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker Carol Hughes

There are nine motions in amendment standing on the Notice Paper for the report stage of Bill C-49.

Motions Nos. 1 to 9 will not be selected by the Chair because they could have been presented in committee.

There being no motions at report stage, the House will now proceed, without debate, to the putting of the question on the motion to concur in the bill at report stage.