House of Commons Hansard #316 of the 44th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was quebec.

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Opposition Motion—Federal Intrusions in the Exclusive Jurisdictions of Quebec and the Provinces Members debate a Bloc motion condemning the federal government's repeated intrusion into the exclusive jurisdictions of Quebec, the provinces and the territories and demanding the right to opt out unconditionally with full compensation. The Bloc argues this centralizes power and leads to failures. Liberals defend their collaborative approach and national programs like dental care and child care, arguing they benefit citizens. Conservatives agree on respecting jurisdictions but criticize the Bloc for supporting Liberal spending. The NDP supports co-operative federalism and federal social programs helping Quebeckers. 45300 words, 6 hours in 2 segments: 1 2.

Statements by Members

Question Period

The Conservatives argued the Prime Minister is not worth the cost after nine years of failed policies. They highlighted increased homelessness (up 38%) and hunger, with many Canadians skipping meals due to inflationary spending and high taxes. They criticized the government's "obese" nature and called for ending policies like the carbon tax to provide relief. They also raised concerns about corruption and obstructing the foreign interference inquiry.
The Liberals defended their Budget 2024 supports and social programs, including the national school food program, dental care, and affordable housing. They criticized the Conservatives for voting against these measures and their lack of plans on homelessness and poverty. They also discussed cooperation with the foreign interference inquiry, protecting the Charter, and their climate plan.
The Bloc criticized Liberal secrecy on foreign interference hindering the Hogue commission. They highlighted Liberal actions contributing to the decline of French (including anglicizing the APF) and federal interference in provincial jurisdiction on university research chairs and EDI hiring criteria.
The NDP raised concerns about the condition of the St. Lawrence River, lack of a B.C. watershed fund for wildfires, risks of a Trans Mountain spill, mercury poisoning in Grassy Narrows, and the closure of rural post offices.

Respect for the Authority of the Chair Members debate a point of order concerning Conservative MPs' tweets about events on April 30, where two Conservative MPs were named and expelled. Andrew Scheer argues the Speaker lacks jurisdiction over statements made outside the chamber and criticizes public comments by the Speaker's spokesman regarding the events. The Speaker will consider the arguments. 1600 words, 10 minutes.

Criminal Code Report stage of Bill S-224. The bill amends the Criminal Code regarding human trafficking, aiming to remove the requirement for victims to prove fear to align with international standards. Supporters argue this is needed to increase low conviction rates, while opponents say it may hinder prosecutions. The bill was amended in committee, prompting motions to restore its original text. 8300 words, 1 hour.

Adjournment Debates

Electoral Reform Promise Elizabeth May accuses the Liberals of breaking their 2015 promise to end the first-past-the-post voting system. Kevin Lamoureux defends the government, stating there was no consensus and that the current system is acceptable. May insists the promise was unequivocal, and accuses the Liberals of lying. Lamoureux maintains there was a genuine attempt to change the system.
Support for Canadian Caregivers Bonita Zarrillo criticizes the government's inaction on caregiver support, highlighting delayed pension benefits and the need for a refundable tax credit. Kevin Lamoureux defends the government's efforts, citing the Canada caregiver credit, disability program investments, and the national child care program, while blaming previous NDP opposition for earlier childcare failures.
Navis Group controversy Michael Cooper accuses the Minister of Employment of a conflict of interest and possibly breaking the law by receiving payments from Navis Group while it lobbied his department and secured federal contracts. Kevin Lamoureux defends the minister, saying he followed ethics rules and accusing the Conservatives of character assassination.

Department of Justice—Main Estimates, 2024-25 Members debate Department of Justice estimates. Conservatives point to rising crime rates, particularly auto theft, blaming Liberal policies like bail reform and questioning the Minister's record. Liberals defend their actions on crime, including new auto theft laws and increased judicial appointments, while criticizing Conservative opposition and their leader's stance on the notwithstanding clause. Other topics include legal aid funding, online harms legislation, MAID advance requests, drug decriminalization, and victims' rights. 38400 words, 4 hours.

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Department of Justice—Main Estimates, 2024-25Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

7:50 p.m.

Liberal

Arif Virani Liberal Parkdale—High Park, ON

Madam Chair, my understanding is that we have made very public statements, as the Government of Canada, about the nature of the settlements in the occupied territories being deemed illegal.

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7:50 p.m.

NDP

Alistair MacGregor NDP Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

Madam Chair, does the minister agree with me that Canada has a duty to act within its jurisdiction with respect to the subject of illegal Israeli settlements?

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7:50 p.m.

Liberal

Arif Virani Liberal Parkdale—High Park, ON

Madam Chair, what I would say to the member opposite is this: We have been quite vocal with respect to the nature of the settlements' being illegal, in terms of the statements we have been making over the last year with respect to the conflict in the region.

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7:50 p.m.

NDP

Alistair MacGregor NDP Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

Madam Chair, with respect, I just need a simple yes or no answer from the minister.

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7:50 p.m.

Liberal

Arif Virani Liberal Parkdale—High Park, ON

Madam Chair, I have given my response.

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NDP

Alistair MacGregor NDP Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

Madam Chair, in March there were several events in Canadian communities in which real estate sales of settlement homes in occupied Palestinian territory were promoted and real estate was potentially sold. There was a real estate tour called the Great Israeli Real Estate Event, which was held in Montreal and Toronto.

Israel's far right government has been expanding and authorizing illegal settlements at a rate that exceeds those of all previous years. Settlements are illegal under international law, and under Canadian policy they are an impediment to peace. They should be a priority of the department, given that this is illegal under domestic law and also given the increasing settler violence in the West Bank, which the minister's government acknowledged last week when it imposed sanctions on extremist settlers.

Has the minister's department investigated these illegal sales that may violate the Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes Act, which lists population transfer by occupying powers as a recognized war crime under domestic law?

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7:50 p.m.

Liberal

Arif Virani Liberal Parkdale—High Park, ON

Madam Chair, I can reiterate that we have made quite public statements, both on our own and also with the governments of Australia and New Zealand, with respect to the settlements and their status at international law.

I can also reiterate that, pursuant to a motion proposed by the member opposite's party, and we voted on that motion, I believe, in March, we are taking the actions needed with respect to certain individuals from those settlements. This includes taking actions on sanctioning extremist settlers. We did exactly that last week by naming four extremist settlers for sanctions.

Those are the actions the Government of Canada has taken.

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7:50 p.m.

NDP

Alistair MacGregor NDP Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

Madam Chair, that is all very clear, but I am looking at the investigation of the particular potential sales that happened here on Canadian soil. I would like the minister to comment on that specifically. I think Canadians have a very deserved right to know.

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7:55 p.m.

Liberal

Arif Virani Liberal Parkdale—High Park, ON

Madam Chair, with respect to the settlements, I can indicate that we deemed them to be illegal at law, as we have pronounced in statements that have been given by our government and by the governments of Australia and New Zealand.

We have also taken steps to issue sanctions against settlers from those regions who are taking extremist actions, and the Minister of Foreign Affairs

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7:55 p.m.

NDP

The Deputy Chair NDP Carol Hughes

The hon. member for Cowichan—Malahat—Langford.

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7:55 p.m.

NDP

Alistair MacGregor NDP Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

Madam Chair, I want to know what work the minister is personally doing to make sure that there is an investigation and potential prosecution of people in Canada who are facilitating the purchasing of property, investments or businesses in illegal Israeli settlements in the occupied Palestinian territory.

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May 23rd, 2024 / 7:55 p.m.

Liberal

Arif Virani Liberal Parkdale—High Park, ON

Madam Chair, the member opposite knows, as a former member of the justice committee, that decisions about investigations and potential prosecution for criminality, whether it is here or abroad, are undertaken, as they need to be in a democracy, by entities such as the free-standing and independent department of public prosecution, the director of public prosecutions, or the war crimes unit. Those are not handled or directed by me—

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7:55 p.m.

NDP

The Deputy Chair NDP Carol Hughes

The hon. member for Cowichan—Malahat—Langford.

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7:55 p.m.

NDP

Alistair MacGregor NDP Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

Madam Chair, I understand that very well. That does not preclude the minister from issuing broad statements about what the government expects.

Again, I would like to hear an answer from the minister.

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7:55 p.m.

Liberal

Arif Virani Liberal Parkdale—High Park, ON

Madam Chair, I can indicate that the Minister of Foreign Affairs has been very vocal with respect to the status at international law of the settlements and also taking action with respect to sanctioning extremist settlers. That happened last week.

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7:55 p.m.

NDP

Alistair MacGregor NDP Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

Madam Chair, with respect, the minister is been quite evasive. I am not talking about the Minister of Foreign Affairs. I am not talking about Israeli settlements abroad. I am talking about Canadians who may have broken the law here in Canada regarding the purchase of properties in the occupied Palestinian territories being done here on Canadian soil. I would like a specific answer to that specific question. That is not under the purview of the Minister of Foreign Affairs. That is under the purview of the Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada.

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7:55 p.m.

Liberal

Arif Virani Liberal Parkdale—High Park, ON

Madam Chair, the purview of the Attorney General of Canada, with respect to the conduct of litigation, is not to wade into criminal prosecutions. There is a very strong line that has existed for over 20 years. That is why we have a Director of Public Prosecutions Act. That is why we have an arm's-length entity and an individual who is the director of public prosecutions so we do not have potential political direction being given about investigating crimes or laying charges in this country in any respect.

If people have evidence of a potential crime being committed, they should contact law enforcement, not the Office of the Attorney General of Canada.

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7:55 p.m.

NDP

Alistair MacGregor NDP Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

Madam Chair, will the minister personally instruct the war crimes division of Justice Canada to conduct enhanced human rights due diligence for all real estate transactions made in Canada or by Canadian citizens that involve illegal settlements in the occupied Palestinian territories?

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7:55 p.m.

Liberal

Arif Virani Liberal Parkdale—High Park, ON

Madam Chair, I just want to reiterate for the member opposite, because it is really fundamental that he and every Canadian watching understand that the war crimes unit operates at arm's length from me. It does not take directions from me with respect to potential domestic law violations or international law violations. That is critical and really separates us as a nation-state that believes in democracy, having that important division—

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7:55 p.m.

NDP

The Deputy Chair NDP Carol Hughes

The hon. member.

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7:55 p.m.

NDP

Alistair MacGregor NDP Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

Madam Chair, there is nothing precluding the minister from setting out certain expectations. I think that is very well and good to be established, and still keeping an organization within the Justice Department at arm's length.

I want to move on. Today I subbed in at the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights, which is currently looking at the issues of anti-Semitism and Islamophobia. It is quite obvious that Jews across Canada are reporting a terrifying increase of hate directed toward them as an identifiable group.

One of the recommendations that emerged at today's meeting was to ban symbols of hate. My colleague, the NDP member for New Westminster—Burnaby, has introduced Bill C-229, which would amend the Criminal Code to broaden the provisions related to hate propaganda by making it an offence to publicly display visual representations that promote or incite hatred or violence against an identifiable group. Can the minister comment on this particular initiative and whether the Government of Canada will support it?

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7:55 p.m.

Liberal

Arif Virani Liberal Parkdale—High Park, ON

Madam Chair, I am pleased to see any efforts that deal with combatting hatred, which is unfortunately spiralling in terms of anti-Semitic incidents and Islamophobic incidents. There is a 130% rise in hate crimes in this country in the last five years. That informs the necessity for bills such as Bill C-63, the online harms bill, which will tackle things like hatred and its festering online, which has real-world consequences. It is very unfortunate that Canada ranks number one in the G7 for the number of deaths of Muslims in the last seven years, 11 in total, due to Islamophobic acts of hate.

What I would say, with respect to this bill, is that we are looking at it closely. I would also reiterate for the member's edification that we amended the hate propaganda provisions to include Holocaust denialism and willful promotion of anti-Semitism within the fold of sections 318 and 319, the hate propaganda offences. That was done within the last two years, I believe.

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8 p.m.

NDP

Alistair MacGregor NDP Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

Madam Chair, members from all sides of the House have supported the creation of a new offence in the Criminal Code for coercive and controlling behaviour. Bill C-332 is scheduled to return to the House for report stage and third reading next week.

Can the minister tell me when the government will act and implement the changes to the Criminal Code that are urgently needed to protect survivors, families and children who are at risk of coercive and controlling behaviour and escalating threats of harm and violence?

Is the government committed to fast-tracking the implementation of the legislation, given the all-party support?

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8 p.m.

Liberal

Arif Virani Liberal Parkdale—High Park, ON

Madam Chair, we are very aware of Bill C-332. I thank the member for the fact that this bill was generated from his party, and also for the fact that there was a lot of collaborative work that was done to make strategic amendments to improve the content of that bill.

My understanding is that this bill is coming up for third reading, and we are very dedicated as a government and as a party to addressing issues of gender-based violence and intimate partner violence. Coercive control is part of that continuum. The fact that other nation-states with which we are allies have addressed this issue already prompts us to act at a faster pace to try and ensure that this bill becomes law as soon as possible, at least through its passage through the House of Commons and off to the Senate.

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8 p.m.

NDP

Alistair MacGregor NDP Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

Madam Chair, yesterday the House of Commons voted to defeat Bill C-381. There is obviously no evidence that mandatory minimums work as a deterrent. This was in the case of extortion in the Criminal Code. There is even evidence that they might hinder the work of a prosecutor to use plea bargaining to obtain evidence for the arrest of other members of a criminal organization. However, there are legitimate fears among the South Asian community regarding the increase in extortion from criminal organizations.

How the minister is dealing with this particularly sensitive issue? How will he be directing his department's resources to address these growing fears?