Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the question; the hon. member has done extensive research on this file and has been very engaged with it.
We saw the indifference of Annette Verschuren and other board members. As the member knows, I sometimes called out some of the organizations and recipients of funds who were more concerned about getting their funds than they were about the whistle-blowers. It was very alarming. This is why I hope that, at some point in time, we can actually enhance the necessary protections for whistle-blowers. It is also why I believe they need to be within the public service alliance to get better protection than what they are currently getting from their association.
This is one of the things that I think was lost in the equation. All 24 conflicts took place and were significant. It is just unbelievable. They have real consequences for the actions of the workers, who often gave different advice from what the board followed.