House of Commons Hansard #40 of the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was c-12.

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Employment Insurance Act First reading of Bill C-249. The bill amends the Employment Insurance Act to ensure eligibility for those returning from maternity leave and increases benefits for family caregivers to 26 weeks, addressing issues mainly affecting women. 200 words.

Flight Attendants’ Remunerations Act First reading of Bill C-250. The bill aims to end unpaid work for flight attendants by requiring airlines to compensate them for all hours worked, including pre-flight, post-flight, and training time, to ensure fairness. 200 words.

Customs Act First reading of Bill C-251. The bill amends the Customs Act and Customs Tariff to combat forced and child labour in imported goods. It shifts the burden of proof to importers to show goods are not produced with forced labour, as in the U.S. 200 words.

Petitions

Strengthening Canada's Immigration System and Borders Act Second reading of Bill C-12. The bill strengthens Canada's borders and immigration system, aiming to streamline asylum claims, combat organized crime, and regulate fentanyl precursor chemicals. While proponents highlight its role in enhancing security and efficiency, critics argue it is a repackaged version of a previous bill, lacks sufficient resources for border agents, fails to impose tough penalties for serious crimes like fentanyl trafficking, and raises concerns about privacy and the handling of asylum seekers. 48000 words, 6 hours in 2 segments: 1 2.

Statements by Members

Question Period

The Conservatives criticize the Liberal government's economic policies, pointing to soaring inflation and rising food prices driven by runaway deficits. They highlight CRA service failures and accuse the Prime Minister of betraying auto workers through job losses at plants like Ingersoll CAMI and Stellantis, demanding an end to reckless spending.
The Liberals focus on Canada's strong economy and an upcoming budget. They champion affordability initiatives including dental care and school food, improving CRA services. The party pledges to protect auto jobs, pursue trade expansion, launch an anti-fraud strategy, and condemn attacks on the RCMP and hate speech.
The Bloc criticizes the government for not addressing hate speech by removing the religious exemption from the Criminal Code. They also condemn the anglicization of Quebec's hospitals through federal funding, demanding unconditional transfers for healthcare to the province.
The NDP demands action on job losses from U.S. pressure and addresses the affordability crisis of soaring food and housing costs.

Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development Act Second reading of Bill C-228. The bill aims to increase parliamentary oversight and transparency in Canada's treaty-making process. It proposes requiring all treaties to be tabled, a 21-day waiting period before ratification, publication, and House advice and committee review for "major treaties." While Bloc members argue the current process is undemocratic, Liberals maintain existing transparency and accountability are robust. Conservatives express concerns about increased workload and potential delays that could hinder negotiation authority. 7900 words, 1 hour.

Adjournment Debates

Youth unemployment Garnett Genuis criticizes the Liberal government's lack of a plan to address rising youth unemployment, promoting the Conservative's four-point plan. Annie Koutrakis defends the government's approach, citing programs like Canada Summer Jobs and investments in apprenticeship programs, arguing they are helping young people gain skills and experience.
Blood plasma sales Dan Mazier questions whether reports of Canadian plasma being sold abroad are false. Maggie Chi defends Canadian Blood Services, stating they sell a waste by-product, albumin, to Grifols, who then turn it into life-saving plasma that is bought back at a reduced rate.
Bail Reform Legislation Jacob Mantle questions Jacques Ramsay about new bail legislation, asking if it will repeal the principle of restraint. Ramsay avoids a direct answer, citing obligations not to reveal details before the bill's announcement this week. He emphasizes the government's commitment to public safety and collaboration with provinces.
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Bill C-12 Strengthening Canada's Immigration System and Borders ActGovernment Orders

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Brad Redekopp Conservative Saskatoon West, SK

Mr. Speaker, the member is probably aware that, at the moment, there are about 600 foreign nationals in Canada who are due to be deported but cannot be tracked down by the CBSA. Clearly, the Liberal government has failed in its ability to keep track of foreign nationals like this, people with criminal records who should be deported. It is unable to find them. It does not know how to locate them. It is a clear failure of the government.

How is this bill going to fix that? Does the member have any confidence when he is speaking to Canadian citizens and Canadian voters that this is going to work, given the failures the government has seen, which he has been a part of for the last 10 years?

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11:15 a.m.

Liberal

Sukh Dhaliwal Liberal Surrey Newton, BC

Mr. Speaker, I have worked with the hon. member for Saskatoon West on the immigration committee in the past. We both understand that we need immigration.

At the same time, we have to curb these criminals and the people who are trying to come to our country illegally. That is why we are putting Bill C-12 together, giving our CBSA officers and RCMP officers more tools and resources to deal with the situation. That is why, last week, we announced 1,000 new RCMP officers and 1,000 new CBSA officers to deal with these situations.

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11:15 a.m.

Liberal

Michael Coteau Liberal Scarborough—Woburn, ON

Mr. Speaker, in my community of Scarborough—Woburn, border protection is an important aspect. I am quite happy that the government has looked for ways to enhance our border security.

Has the hon. member had conversations in his community about border security? What does the bill mean for the people he represents in his riding?

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11:15 a.m.

Liberal

Sukh Dhaliwal Liberal Surrey Newton, BC

Mr. Speaker, whether it is in Scarborough or in Surrey, people are concerned about security. Surrey is a border city when it comes to the U.S. border. This is exactly what they were asking for to strengthen our borders and make sure that CBSA officers have the tools and resources to deal with this, whether it is illegal firearms or drugs that are flowing into our country. They would be able to search those warehouses where they are stored and loaded.

Giving them those powers would make it better for people in Scarborough, as well as in Surrey.

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11:15 a.m.

Liberal

Michael Coteau Liberal Scarborough—Woburn, ON

Mr. Speaker, I know there are going to be some enhancements to border security and additional RCMP officers. For the member's province, I am sure this would have a very positive impact. I know that, for Ontario, it would be quite good.

Could the hon. member talk about some of those enhancements, like the new police officers, and how he thinks they would impact border security in Canada?

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11:15 a.m.

Liberal

Sukh Dhaliwal Liberal Surrey Newton, BC

Mr. Speaker, last week, I, along with the parliamentary secretary, were able to announce 1,000 new police officers. Out of that, 150 police officers would be assigned to financial crime. That is a major issue that we are seeing in Surrey and other communities: cases of extortion and theft. These 150 new police officers would be able to deal with those issues effectively and make our communities safe.

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11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Sandra Cobena Conservative Newmarket—Aurora, ON

Mr. Speaker, I would like the hon. member to comment on why the Liberal government refuses to shut down consumption sites that are close to schools.

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11:20 a.m.

Liberal

Sukh Dhaliwal Liberal Surrey Newton, BC

Mr. Speaker, these consumption sites are working in my community of Surrey. I can tell the member that, since they came in, they have made a big difference in the lives of people. We will continue to support those—

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11:20 a.m.

The Deputy Speaker Tom Kmiec

Resuming debate, the hon. member for Pickering—Brooklin.

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11:20 a.m.

Liberal

Juanita Nathan Liberal Pickering—Brooklin, ON

Mr. Speaker, today the House is debating important legislation: Bill C-12, the strengthening Canada's immigration system and borders act. Bill C-12 would strengthen our country's security by proposing changes to support border security and immigration, to fight transnational organized crime and to disrupt illicit financing. We urgently need to update many of our laws if we want to be able to address the complex security challenges our country is currently facing.

With Bill C-12, CBSA officers would have the capacity to inspect exported goods in warehouses and transportation hubs. Owners and operators of certain ports of entry and exit would be required to provide facilities for export inspections just as they currently do for imports. These changes would strengthen the CBSA's ability to detect and seize contraband for export, including illicit goods such as fentanyl and stolen vehicles.

Canada's coasts also face new security risks. That is why this bill would allow the Canadian Coast Guard to conduct security patrols. It would also be able to collect, analyze and share information for security purposes. Canada strictly controls synthetic drugs and the precursor chemicals used to produce them. Unfortunately, the illicit drug market is constantly evolving in an attempt to evade these controls. Bill C-12 would ensure the Minister of Health can rapidly control the precursor chemicals used to produce illicit drugs, including fentanyl.

Border security and immigration are top priorities for the Liberal government. Notably, this bill would also help us enhance the integrity and fairness of our immigration system. Canada's asylum system exists to protect people who are fleeing persecution or risks to their life or safety in their home country. The strengthening Canada's immigration system and borders act would, among other things, improve how we receive, process and decide on asylum claims to make the system faster and easier to navigate.

The amendments contained in Bill C-12 would also help law enforcement respond more effectively to evolving border security challenges. Border security requires a coordinated effort across the entire government, as information from various federal institutions may be required to thoroughly assess the situation.

Federal departments and agencies need to work together to share information in order to understand and respond to demands and to keep people safe. For that reason, Bill C-12 would enhance the ability of the RCMP to share information on registered sex offenders with domestic and international partners.

It would improve how IRCC shares information so that federal, provincial and territorial partners can make timely, accurate decisions to ensure the integrity and better delivery of public services. IRCC already shares applicant information with its domestic partners in limited circumstances, but this bill would create clear and direct legal authorities to allow for proactive and systematic information sharing and to reduce administrative burdens.

Any new use or disclosure of personal information under these new authorities would follow existing privacy laws, policies and best practices. Additionally, the proposed measures would strengthen Canada's anti-money laundering and anti-terrorist financing regime, including through stronger anti-money laundering penalties. It is well known that money laundering supports crimes like human trafficking, fentanyl trafficking, fraud, theft and other economic crimes. This is why we need new tools to keep pace with increasingly sophisticated criminal threats and techniques.

The measures contained in the bill would strengthen businesses' compliance to anti-money laundering obligations, including through a 40-times increase in administrative penalties. This would ensure non-compliance is not treated as the cost of doing business.

The bill would enable FINTRAC to exchange supervisory information on federally regulated financial institutions with other members of the financial institutions supervisory committee, and it would add the director of FINTRAC to this committee.

Because international organized crime networks represent the biggest threat to our country's security, we have already taken several important measures. First, our government established the integrated money laundering intelligence partnership with Canada's largest banks, which is enhancing our capacity to develop and use financial intelligence to combat fentanyl trafficking and other organized crime.

Second, we have listed seven transnational organized crime groups as terrorist entities under the Criminal Code. Listing is an important tool that supports criminal investigations and strengthens the RCMP's ability to prevent and disrupt criminal activities. We continue to monitor this and will add more to the list as needed.

Finally, Canada appointed its first fentanyl czar, who serves as the main interlocutor between the Canadian and U.S. governments for enhancing our collaboration in combatting fentanyl. While less than 1% of illicit fentanyl seized in the U.S. is linked to Canada, we are working to ensure fewer drugs and their precursor chemicals cross our shared border. To increase our illegal fentanyl detection abilities, we are training and deploying new border detector dog teams that specialize in fentanyl detection.

We have also taken into account stakeholders' concerns and have introduced Bill C-12 to advance these legislative priorities as quickly as possible. Bill C-12 draws on elements of Bill C-2 that are designed to combat transnational organized crime and those who seek to exploit our immigration system. This streamlined bill would balance the need to protect our borders with concerns about Canadians' privacy.

Bill C-12 would complement ongoing efforts to secure our border from coast to coast to coast and keep Canadians safe. We must act with urgency on all these issues. Now is the time to update our laws to continue to address increasing and more complex security challenges. I wish to reassure this House that there is no greater priority for our government than to keep Canadians and our communities safe. That is why we are taking strong measures to combat crime and ensure our border remains safe and secure.

I hope that my hon. colleagues from all sides of the House will join me today in supporting Bill C-12.

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11:25 a.m.

Liberal

Michael Coteau Liberal Scarborough—Woburn, ON

Mr. Speaker, this country has been built by immigrants. Outside the indigenous community, we are all from immigrants at some point in time. Immigration is part of our past; it is part of who we are today, and it will be a big part of who we are in the future.

I know that constituents in Pickering—Brooklin share many different immigration stories. How important is it to get the immigration file right in this country, and what does that mean to the member?

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11:30 a.m.

Liberal

Juanita Nathan Liberal Pickering—Brooklin, ON

Mr. Speaker, as my colleague said, immigration is an integral part of our system. We have all been immigrants at some point in time, and Pickering—Brooklin is vastly made up of immigrants from all countries across the world. It is important that we get this right, and we have to spend time and debate the bill. I am hoping that all members of the House will understand how important it is for asylum claimants and immigrants to come to this country, and we are taking significant steps to preserve the integrity of our immigration system while upholding humanitarian commitments.

Without immigration, families cannot come together, and grandparents are not able to visit their grandchildren and be part of the milestones in their lives, so it is important for us to have an immigration system that—

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11:30 a.m.

The Deputy Speaker Tom Kmiec

Questions and comments, the hon. member for Scarborough—Woburn.

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11:30 a.m.

Liberal

Michael Coteau Liberal Scarborough—Woburn, ON

Mr. Speaker, the hon. member talked a bit about some of the pieces that will have an impact on businesses and our border and will enhance our system overall, with more compliance issues.

Would the member care to expand on some of those pieces that will be important for building a stronger border and immigration system in Canada?

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11:30 a.m.

Liberal

Juanita Nathan Liberal Pickering—Brooklin, ON

Mr. Speaker, definitely. The 1,000 RCMP officers are an important piece in this big puzzle that we are trying to solve as we mitigate our border security. The dog teams are a very important part.

The reason I am saying this is that even if 1% of fentanyl is crossing Canadian borders, it is still a big deal for Canadians. Even though we are 10% of the U.S. population, that 1% represents a huge problem in our communities and for businesses.

As a former youth worker and a community worker, I know how this affects our communities in our everyday lives. We must do everything we can to protect our borders. We have to mend fences before we can start building.

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11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Jagsharan Singh Mahal Conservative Edmonton Southeast, AB

Mr. Speaker, among other things, there are frailties in the proposed Liberal Bill C-12, and I want to ask a question of the member who is taking part in this debate about the bill.

There is no answer to the safe supply of fentanyl. It is still going to continue, which poses a threat of AMR, something being studied at a committee I am currently working on.

There is no minimum mandatory sentence for traffickers in regard to fentanyl. There is no minimum sentence for gangsters.

How would you respond to those questions on what is lacking in the Liberals' proposed Bill C-12?

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11:30 a.m.

The Deputy Speaker Tom Kmiec

Just as a reminder, we do not use “you”. Members speak through the Speaker.

The hon. member for Pickering—Brooklin.

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11:30 a.m.

Liberal

Juanita Nathan Liberal Pickering—Brooklin, ON

Mr. Speaker, this is why we introduce a bill. It goes through first and second readings, and then it goes to committee, which debates it and adds or takes away whatever is needed so that all Canadians can be protected.

It is important to note why Bill C-12 is even here. All of this was actually part of Bill C-2. I want to ask my hon. colleague whether Conservatives will be supporting making the bill better and having it go through.

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October 21st, 2025 / 11:30 a.m.

Conservative

David Bexte Conservative Bow River, AB

Mr. Speaker, I am thankful for the opportunity to speak to Bill C-12 today.

Conservatives have forced the Liberals to back down from Bill C-2. That bill would have given the government broad powers to access Canadians' personal information from banks, telecoms and other service providers without a warrant. The Privacy Commissioner confirmed that the Liberals did not consult him before proposing these sweeping powers.

Law-abiding Canadians should not lose their freedoms because of the Liberals' overreach. Now the Liberals have introduced Bill C-12. Conservatives will examine the legislation carefully. We need to ensure that it does not infringe on Canadians' privacy rights. We will hold the government accountable to protect individual freedoms and ensure transparency in how it exercises its power.

Bill C-12 is a broad omnibus bill. It includes changes to border security, crime prevention, privacy laws and immigration. For example, it amends the Customs Act to allow the CBSA to use facilities free of charge for enforcement. That is good for the budget.

Bill C-12 also amends the Oceans Act. It enables the Canadian Coast Guard to conduct security patrols and share information with law enforcement and intelligence partners. It increases penalties for money-laundering violations and expands FINTRAC's authority. That is laudable. However, it also allows for more information sharing between government departments, raising serious concerns about privacy protections. We will not allow the Liberals to quietly erode Canadians' rights in the name of administrative efficiency.

Some of the most troubling parts of Bill C-2 have been removed, such as part 4, which allowed Canada Post to open any mail, including letters, without a warrant, as well as part 11, which banned cash payments and donations over $10,000. Those were egregious overreaches. It was due to pressure from the Conservatives that, thankfully, those parts were removed. However, my Conservative colleagues and I believe this still falls short on many issues facing everyday Canadians.

For example, crime is rising across Canada. Since 2015, violent crime has increased by 37% in my home province of Alberta. Nationally, homicides are up nearly 28%. Gang-related homicides have risen 78%. Firearms-related violent offences have more than doubled, rising 116%. Extortion is up a whopping 400% in Alberta, and sexual assaults have increased by 75%. These are alarming trends. The Liberals' soft-on-crime policies are making our communities less safe.

Bill C-75, passed in 2019, introduced a principle of restraint on the granting of bail and prioritized early release for offenders in lieu of public safety. This has led to catch-and-release practices for serious criminals, including those trafficking fentanyl and firearms. Bill C-5, passed in 2022, repealed mandatory prison sentences for crimes involving firearms and reinstated house arrest for serious offences, such as sexual assault, kidnapping and human trafficking.

These changes send the wrong message to Canadians and put people at risk. Conservatives proposed Bill C-325 to reverse those changes and strengthen sentencing. The Liberals and the NDP voted against it.

While Bill C-12 does well in filling in an important loophole by banning precursors of fentanyl, it fails to address sentencing for fentanyl dealers. Tougher penalties for traffickers and producers are essential if we are serious about stopping the spread of this and other deadly drugs.

The fentanyl crisis demands urgent action. From January 2016 to June 2024, over 49,000 Canadians died from apparent opioid toxicity. Nearly 80% of those deaths involved fentanyl. Emergency visits for fentanyl poisoning have more than doubled since 2018. This is unacceptable. Earlier this year, the Prime Minister downplayed the opioid crisis during a campaign stop in Kelowna, calling it only a “challenge”. That is deeply offensive to the families of the more than 49,000 Canadians who have died from overdoses in under 10 years.

We are seeing the impact in communities across the country. Just this week, in Medicine Hat, police and ALERT carried out a major drug bust, seizing 598 grams of fentanyl, as well as other illicit drugs and cash. That amount of fentanyl alone represents nearly 300,000 fatal doses.

Across Canada, fentanyl superlabs are producing massive quantities of this deadly drug, and police in British Columbia, Alberta, Ontario and Quebec have seized tens of kilograms of fentanyl and thousands of kilograms of precursor chemicals. These operations often include stockpiles of weapons and explosives and pose a serious threat to public safety, yet the government's response still falls short. Without tougher sentences and stronger enforcement, fentanyl will continue to devastate families and communities.

The Liberals have also refused to back down from supporting safe consumption sites near schools. My Conservative colleague from Riding Mountain called on the government to shut down these sites near children. The health minister suggested more might be approved, even after admitting that these locations often become hot spots for fentanyl use.

Law-abiding Canadians deserve better. They deserve strong protections for privacy and freedom. They deserve laws that keep our communities safe and hold criminals accountable. They deserve a government that takes the drug crisis seriously, not one that shrugs it off as a mere challenge.

Bill C-12 also touches on immigration and asylum, areas where Canadians' compassion has been abused by the government. Canadians are generous and fair-minded, but that must never be taken for granted or exploited.

The Liberals have exploited Canadians for the past decade on this matter. A decade ago, Canada's asylum system was in control. The backlog accounted for fewer than 10,000 cases. Today, that number has exploded into the hundreds of thousands, and many of these claims are bogus. This is unacceptable.

Let me be clear that it is wrong to jump the line. It is unfair to take advantage of a system that was built to protect people fleeing real persecution. There are Nigerian Christians who face death for their faith. There are Ukrainians fleeing war. In decades past, Canada opened its doors to Vietnamese boat people escaping communism. These are the people our asylum system should protect.

My own father fled Communist East Germany with nothing but his hands, his family and the hope that Alberta would be a place where his children could live freely and safely. He came to Canada the fair and legal way. He never cut corners or skipped the line.

When false claims flood the system, it is real refugees and hard-working Canadians who pay the price. Our housing crisis worsens. Emergency rooms are overwhelmed. Many Canadians still do not have a family doctor. Classrooms are overcrowded. Teachers are struggling and students are falling behind. All across the country, essential services are stretched beyond capacity, and we need a system that protects the most vulnerable, not one that rewards abuse.

Our asylum system was designed to help those fleeing persecution, in accordance with the 1951 UN refugee convention. It was never intended to become a back door for economic migration, but that is exactly what is happening under the Liberal government.

Social media posts are now encouraging temporary residents to claim asylum as a way to stay in Canada after their student visas or work permits expire. This is a dangerous trend. It undermines the credibility, the capability and the fabric of our immigration system and hurts those who truly need Canada's protection.

Bill C-12, in parts 5 through 8, proposes several changes to our immigration and refugee system, but these changes do not go nearly far enough. The bill would largely shift responsibility away from the government and onto the courts, and it would permit certain actions through regulation instead of legislating clear, enforceable rules. Without strong enforcement mechanisms, meaningful change will not follow.

The bill also includes a proposed change to the safe third country agreement, but it fails to explain how or when it will be negotiated with the United States. In the meantime, Canada continues to accept asylum claims from G7 countries that are safe, democratic and fully capable of protecting their own citizens.

The Liberal government's record on immigration and refugee integrity is clear: The backlog has soared, the rules are weak and the system is being abused.

Conservatives believe in a compassionate and rules-based immigration system, one that prioritizes those most at risk, treats Canadians and newcomers with respect and restores integrity to the asylum process. Future performance is best demonstrated by past behaviour, and the Liberal government has not shown us anything promising in the last 10 years. Only Conservatives will stand up for Canadians' individual freedoms, their safety and the integrity of the systems that make this country strong.

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11:45 a.m.

Liberal

Michael Coteau Liberal Scarborough—Woburn, ON

Mr. Speaker, the member brought up several concerns about asylum seekers. Some pretty substantial changes are being proposed in this bill in order to strengthen our asylum processing system. Is the member prepared to join Canadians in supporting a bill that would bring more integrity to the asylum system here in Canada, yes or no?

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11:45 a.m.

Conservative

David Bexte Conservative Bow River, AB

Mr. Speaker, this is exactly what Canadians are expecting, but they do not trust that the government is going to follow through on accountability and responsibility measures to ensure that is the outcome that will be achieved.

We are absolutely in support of stronger mechanisms, stronger controls and better accountability. I hope that a committee will be able to address enforcement and get those institutions corrected.

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11:45 a.m.

Conservative

Greg McLean Conservative Calgary Centre, AB

Mr. Speaker, one thing my colleague mentioned in his speech was the social media posts that advertised how people could get into Canada through the asylum process. Does the member think the government has designed a system that is so easy to manipulate that there are advertisements on social media? Who might be profiting from that system?

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11:45 a.m.

Conservative

David Bexte Conservative Bow River, AB

Mr. Speaker, it is really disturbing to see this kind of thing. I hazard to speculate on where the sources might be, but it is very obvious that a lot of agencies and people will benefit from advertising this kind of behaviour and will profit from this kind of behaviour. I would not want to say that this was deliberate, but we need to establish a system that ensures abuse like this does not take place and cannot be tolerated.

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11:45 a.m.

Winnipeg North Manitoba

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Mr. Speaker, I wonder if the member would apply the same principles to 2012, when the leader of the Conservative Party was around the caucus table and thousands of Hungarians were coming into Canada, 95% of whom did not have legitimate asylum claims. In fact, that is what led the Conservatives to reform the system back then. Fast-forward to today, when we have things such as the pandemic and the international student issue, which has been driven in good part by post-secondary institutions in the private and public sectors and by the provinces.

Would the member not agree that at times there is a need to make changes? Today, he has an opportunity to make a change by allowing Bill C-12 to go forward. Would the member not agree this is the responsible thing to do because at times there is a need for change, like today?

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11:45 a.m.

Conservative

David Bexte Conservative Bow River, AB

Mr. Speaker, I will not agree with my colleague. We do not believe that the changes would go far enough. Yes, change needs to happen, but the bill would not go far enough.