House of Commons Hansard #37 of the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was economy.

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Opposition Motion—Cost of Deficits Members debate the Liberal government's economic policies, focusing on deficit spending's impact on investment, jobs, and the cost of living. Conservatives contend deficits drive down investment, citing 86,000 net job losses and "unsustainable" finances, urging spending cuts. Liberals assert Canada has the lowest net debt-to-GDP ratio in the G7, attributing inflation to global factors, and defending investments and tax cuts. The Bloc Québécois agrees with "abysmal" management, criticizing forgone revenues and oil subsidies. The NDP proposes an excess profits tax. 33100 words, 4 hours.

Statements by Members

Question Period

The Conservatives criticize the Prime Minister's commitment to send $1 trillion in investments to the U.S., which they argue will cost Canadian jobs. They highlight Canada's fastest-shrinking economy in the G7 and the doubling of softwood lumber and auto tariffs, demanding he stand up for Canadian workers.
The Liberals commend a Middle East peace plan and defend their economic record, highlighting the lowest net debt-to-GDP ratio in the G7. They focus on improving trade with the U.S., diversifying international agreements, and supporting Canadian workers and sectors like softwood lumber and auto manufacturing. They also emphasize defending the Charter and border security.
The Bloc criticizes the Prime Minister for broken promises on U.S. tariffs and delayed sector support. They also defend the notwithstanding clause against Liberal "distortions," accusing them of trying to weaken Quebec's sovereignty.
The NDP advocates for workers' right to strike and criticizes the Prime Minister's concessions to Trump on projects like the Keystone pipeline.

Opposition Motion Members debate Canada's economic state. Conservatives argue Liberal government spending fuels inflation, job losses, and declining investment, worsening the cost of living crisis. They advocate for fiscal discipline and private investment. Liberals defend their record, citing Canada's strong G7 standing, and highlight initiatives like tax cuts, housing programs, and a plan to "spend less to invest more" in the upcoming budget. They attribute inflation to global factors. 25200 words, 3 hours.

Adjournment Debates

International development spending Elizabeth May argues that Canada should focus on international development and humanitarian aid rather than military spending, especially given the U.S.'s retreat from multilateralism. Yasir Naqvi defends the government's commitment to international aid, stating that development, diplomacy, and defence are all needed for global security.
Youth unemployment rate Don Davies expresses concern about unemployment and criticizes the Liberals' plans for austerity. Leslie Church defends the government's programs for skills training and job creation. Garnett Genuis states Liberal policies are to blame, and more investment is needed. Both Church and Genuis agree about the need for skilled trades.
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Opposition Motion—Cost of DeficitsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

Pat Kelly Conservative Calgary Crowfoot, AB

Mr. Speaker, I will address one specific example that occurred under the Liberal government. From time to time, we hear its members patting themselves on the back over the Trans Mountain pipeline. They congratulate themselves for nationalizing what was private infrastructure and subsidizing it to a staggering sum, so we ended up using public money to build something that should have been built privately. It would have been built privately if the government did not chase the investment out of Canada.

Opposition Motion—Cost of DeficitsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

Dave Epp Conservative Chatham-Kent—Leamington, ON

Mr. Speaker, I want to congratulate my colleague on his excellent speech, but I take no joy in it. I take no joy in us, as the opposition, having to bring this motion before this chamber.

My question is, why? Why is the Prime Minister taking this country to the precipice? He comes from the private sector. He has personal wealth. Is he not hurting himself by bringing these disastrous policies to our country?

Opposition Motion—Cost of DeficitsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

Pat Kelly Conservative Calgary Crowfoot, AB

Mr. Speaker, the Prime Minister is probably pretty insulated from the damage he is doing to the country. As to why he is doing it or what the motive is, I would have to leave that to the Liberals. I have no idea why they are wreaking fiscal and economic vandalism on this country. I wish they would not.

Opposition Motion—Cost of DeficitsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:35 a.m.

NDP

Gord Johns NDP Courtenay—Alberni, BC

Mr. Speaker, I have a ton of respect for my colleague, but he brought up the job losses of 900 people at Imperial Oil. At the same time, Imperial Oil just posted that it returned $367 million to shareholders last quarter. When somebody wins, we all want to see them do well.

However, with excess profits such as this, will the Conservatives and Liberals ever agree that an excess profits tax could help reduce deficits?

Opposition Motion—Cost of DeficitsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

Pat Kelly Conservative Calgary Crowfoot, AB

Mr. Speaker, the phenomenon of share buyback is symptomatic of just how horrific the investment climate is in Canada. Businesses would generally love to invest in plant, equipment, technology and things that would increase productivity, but in this country, there is no opportunity.

Opposition Motion—Cost of DeficitsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:35 a.m.

Winnipeg North Manitoba

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Mr. Speaker, it is no surprise for members on this side that the Conservatives have somehow come up with another opposition day motion in which they want to say that we are different. I will be splitting my time with the Parliamentary Secretary to the Prime Minister. I appreciate the reminder although it is much to the disappointment of members opposite, I am sure.

The Conservatives have come up with a heck of an opposition motion that, once again, tries to portray the government in a false, negative light. I think they need a reality check. One of my colleagues said the Conservative Party is like a professional opposition party.

Opposition Motion—Cost of DeficitsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:40 a.m.

Conservative

Bob Zimmer Conservative Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies, BC

Mr. Speaker, on a point of order, I would question the member's use of language and the term “false”. I think we are not allowed to say something indirectly—

Opposition Motion—Cost of DeficitsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:40 a.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker John Nater

Order. The hon. parliamentary secretary can very briefly speak to the same point of order.

Opposition Motion—Cost of DeficitsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:40 a.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Mr. Speaker, the previous speaker used the word “lie”. Members will notice that I did not interrupt his speech.

Opposition Motion—Cost of DeficitsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:40 a.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker John Nater

Order. We are delving into debate here. This is debate. The word “false” is not considered unparliamentary.

The member is correct that the word “lie” is, and that is something we should stay away from. If I missed it in the comments, shame on me.

The hon. parliamentary secretary can resume.

Opposition Motion—Cost of DeficitsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:40 a.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Mr. Speaker, the member for Calgary Crowfoot could always stand and apologize as—

Opposition Motion—Cost of DeficitsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:40 a.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker John Nater

Order. I am hoping this is not going to be further debate.

The hon. member for Calgary Crowfoot.

Opposition Motion—Cost of DeficitsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:40 a.m.

Conservative

Pat Kelly Conservative Calgary Crowfoot, AB

Mr. Speaker, on the point of order, I certainly did not refer to any member or statement, so I do not believe that a rule was—

Opposition Motion—Cost of DeficitsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:40 a.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker John Nater

Order. We are well into debate now.

Opposition Motion—Cost of DeficitsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:40 a.m.

Conservative

Pat Kelly Conservative Calgary Crowfoot, AB

It is withdrawn.

Opposition Motion—Cost of DeficitsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:40 a.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker John Nater

Resuming debate, the hon. parliamentary secretary.

Opposition Motion—Cost of DeficitsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

October 9th, 2025 / 10:40 a.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Mr. Speaker, I take it that all these points of order are deducted and that I get a bonus minute for every time the opposition stands up.

The opposition talks about change. They say there is no change. That is just not true. The reality is that we had an election just a few months back. I will remind my friends on the opposite side of what happened during that election.

The leader of the Conservative Party and the leader of the Liberal Party had the opportunity to present to Canadians what they had to offer given the circumstances. There were many circumstances. We had the Trump tariffs and trade issues. We had issues surrounding crime and safety in our communities.

Canadians actually did a comparison. I believe, from when I was knocking on doors, that the people of Canada were looking at the background of those leaders. What they saw in the leader of the Liberal Party was someone who was a former governor of the Bank of Canada, a former governor of the Bank of England, an economist and someone who understands the economy. They contrasted that to the leader of the Conservative Party. What did they see? Not much. He is a politician. I have been a politician virtually just as long, maybe even a bit longer than he has. It is an honourable profession. However, at the end of the day, even I have more outside-of-politics experience than the leader of the official opposition does.

I can say that when Canadians looked at the environment we were in, they voted for the leader of the Liberal Party and the Liberal Party in record numbers. Never before has the Liberal Party of Canada received as many votes as they did in the last election. I look at that, and I take that as a responsibility for all of us, not only government but also opposition, to recognize that we all have a responsibility to Canadians, the people whom we represent.

The year prior, we had the leader of the Conservative Party going all over Canada, from coast to coast to coast, saying that Canada was broken. That was the message the Conservatives were sending out. That was their bumper sticker. They insulted Canadians in every region of the country. At the end of the day, we would think they learned something from that. However, once again, we have the Conservative Party, particularly the leader of the Conservative Party, being like the Prince of Darkness, casting a dark shadow over Canada as a whole. Nothing but the negatives is what it is all—

Opposition Motion—Cost of DeficitsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:40 a.m.

Conservative

Ted Falk Conservative Provencher, MB

Mr. Speaker, on a point of order, I take exception to the language that the member on the opposite side is using. We all know what the reference to the Prince of Darkness is. He does too. I would ask him to withdraw that statement.

Opposition Motion—Cost of DeficitsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:45 a.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Mr. Speaker, on the same point of order, when I was an MLA, Gary Filmon, who was a Progressive Conservative, often called the leader of the NDP the Prince of Darkness. I honestly thought it was—

Opposition Motion—Cost of DeficitsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:45 a.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker John Nater

Order. Let us all be judicious in our language and avoid the use of words that could cause disruption.

I will ask the member to carry on, with five minutes and 49 seconds remaining.

Opposition Motion—Cost of DeficitsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:45 a.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Mr. Speaker, the Conservatives like to take the stats and give the impression that everything is still broken in Canada.

Let us look at the types of things done, coming out of the last election, by the Prime Minister and the government, whether it was getting rid of the carbon tax, something that was initiated virtually when the Prime Minister became the Leader of the Liberal Party, or the first substantial pieces of legislation brought in after the election, Bill C-4 and Bill C-5. Bill C-4 gave 22 million Canadians a tax break.

We also then brought in Bill C-5 to build one Canadian economy. On this side of the House, within the Liberal caucus, there is a build Canada strong mentality. We are determined to make Canada the strongest economy in the G7, contrary to what the Conservatives say day after day.

We can look at some of the very basic, fundamental stats. Let us take a look at the labour force participation and contrast it to that of the United States. Canada's labour force participation is far greater than it is in the United States. That does not mean we are not sympathetic to people who are losing jobs; of course we are. That is the reason we have developed five major projects, with more to come before the Grey Cup game.

Of course we are sensitive to the people who are losing jobs, just like we are concerned with the issue of affordability. Let us look at the reality of affordability, year over year. From July to July, inflation was 1.9%. That is well within the markers set up by the Governor of the Bank of Canada. That is why interest rates have gone down. That is why we are in the lower half. We are also doing better than most countries in the G7 on interest rates.

The Conservatives talk about debt. We have the lowest net debt-to-GDP ratio in the entire G7, and the Conservatives know that. They know some of the economic indicators. However, they still go around saying that things are so bad in Canada, and then they criticize the Liberals if we try to portray things in a little more of a positive light, accusing us of trying to pat ourselves on the back. We are expressing the reality of the situation: Canadians of all political stripes outside the chamber are coming together and working together to build one strong Canada.

We have a Prime Minister who went to the United States of America to meet with President Trump to begin negotiations in a very tangible way so we can be there for Canadians. What did the Conservatives say? They said that they want the agreement and that we had said we would have an agreement, and so on. They will just fold, capitulate and do whatever they want. We are not going to do that. We believe we have to be there and get the best deal for Canadians. If that means we have to wait an extra week, two weeks or a month or two, whatever it takes, we are going to achieve the best deal for Canadians. That is what the negotiations are all about.

On building our economy, let us take a look at the projects we have brought forward: LNG in B.C., copper in the prairie provinces, nuclear energy in Ontario, the port in Quebec, and a very aggressive, proactive Atlantic caucus pushing on a number of different projects, just like in Manitoba where we are trying to get into the second round of major projects. Premiers of different political stripes and Canadians of all stripes are working together in order to recognize that these types of investments mean something: $60 billion.

Yesterday in question period, the Conservatives were talking about foreign investment. More countries invested in Canada in 2023; according to the last numbers I saw, we were number one in terms of foreign investment coming into Canada. There is a private sector that the Prime Minister referenced.

Look at what is actually happening; there are a lot of good things taking place in Canada. We just need the Conservatives to open their eyes, or, I would suggest, if they have not learned anything from the last federal election, they will continue to be in opposition for many years to come. I will say that they are good in opposition—

Opposition Motion—Cost of DeficitsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:50 a.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker John Nater

Questions and comments, the hon. member for Skeena—Bulkley Valley.

Opposition Motion—Cost of DeficitsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

Ellis Ross Conservative Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Mr. Speaker, I referenced the approval of LNG Canada, but we have met with the departments, and it is clear that there are no outstanding permits or authorizations needed for LNG Canada. I am assuming that phase 2 needs an approval in terms of emissions. Is this why LNG Canada phase 2 has been added to the major projects list? Is there going to be a decision on the emissions from phase 2, from phase 1 or from both?

Opposition Motion—Cost of DeficitsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:50 a.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Mr. Speaker, the members opposite, when they start questioning the major projects, have to realize that the federal government has played the lead role in working with, in this case, the Province of British Columbia, indigenous community leaders and many other stakeholders and has put together a package that ultimately is going to see the extension and, I would suggest, the growth of LNG for the province of B.C. In fact, all of Canada will benefit by it. That is the—

Opposition Motion—Cost of DeficitsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

10:50 a.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker John Nater

The hon. member for Drummond.