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House of Commons Hansard #9 of the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was chair.

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Business of the House Steven MacKinnon moves motion agreed to by Members to change House Standing Orders for the 45th Parliament regarding committee composition, appointment, and procedures for suspending sittings during late-night votes. 400 words.

Petitions

Strong Borders Act Second reading of Bill C-2. The bill aims to strengthen border security, combat organized crime, fentanyl trafficking, money laundering, and enhance immigration system integrity. Proponents say it provides crucial new tools for law enforcement. Critics raise concerns about its omnibus nature, lack of provisions on bail and sentencing, insufficient resources, and privacy implications of new powers, including lawful access and mail inspection, arguing it requires thorough, detailed work in committee. 44700 words, 6 hours in 2 segments: 1 2.

Statements by Members

Question Period

The Conservatives criticize the Liberals' lack of a budget, rising national debt, and increased spending, linking these to inflation and the rising cost of groceries. They highlight the housing crisis, unaffordable homes, and pressure on services from increased international student numbers. They also call for ending catch-and-release bail policies and repealing Bill C-69.
The Liberals focus on measures to support Canadians, including tax breaks, dental care, and child care. They address US tariffs on steel and aluminum and efforts to protect industries. The party discusses building affordable housing, balancing the immigration system, and combatting crime with Bill C-2. They also aim to build a strong Canadian economy.
The Bloc criticizes the government's inaction on rising US tariffs on aluminum and steel, highlighting 2,000 forestry layoffs and calling for industry support and a budget update. They urge proactive measures like wage subsidies.
The NDP raise concerns about the PBO's warning on fiscal commitments and potential cuts. They highlight the threat to jobs from US steel tariffs and call for reforming EI and income supports.
The Greens pay tribute to the late Marc Garneau, remembering his non-partisanship, support on environmental laws, astronaut career, and kindness across party lines.

Main Estimates, 2025-26 Members debate Public Safety and Transport estimates. Discussions include concerns about correctional service decisions, bail reform, gun control (including the buyback program), and border security (Bill C-2, CBSA/RCMP hiring). They also discuss efforts to strengthen the economy and create a single Canadian market by reducing internal trade barriers, investments in national transport infrastructure like ports and rail, and issues with air passenger rights. 31800 words, 4 hours.

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Main Estimates, 2025-26Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

7:50 p.m.

Taiaiako'n—Parkdale—High Park Ontario

Liberal

Karim Bardeesy LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Industry

Mr. Chair, I will be speaking for about 10 minutes and will be addressing my questions to the Minister of Transport and Internal Trade.

A lot of us have just been through a very energetic campaign. I do not think a year ago we would have been talking about internal trade in this chamber. I do not know if we would have been talking about national unity in the way we are in the estimates and in the platform we are putting together, which the Minister of Transport and Internal Trade referred to in her opening remarks.

I think it is really due to the awakening that happened first in November and then into the winter months with the threat to Canadian sovereignty. I really awoke to this in my campaigning and my canvassing in Taiaiako'n—Parkdale—High Park. As I said in my maiden speech, we are an urban riding that is a little more than 16 square kilometres between the Humber River, Lake Ontario and the transmission lines and the train tracks in the west part of Toronto.

When we think of urban ridings, of people who are engaged in such a small space, there is often an assumption that they have very parochial urban concerns. Indeed, the people in my riding did have a lot of concerns that were very specific to their needs, around transportation, around poverty and around economic development.

There is more poverty in my riding than in other ridings. There are lots of different kinds of need, but across the demographic groups in the riding, whether it was in the Parkdale area, the Roncesvalles area, where I live, Liberty Village, which is full of young professionals, Bloor West Village, Swansea, the valley down by the Humber River, the Stock Yards area, Rockliffe-Smythe or the Junction, there was a common theme around putting some of our economic differences aside, putting some of our more parochial concerns aside and really taking the national interest.

There was a really specific interest in this idea that we needed to break down these internal trade barriers. Canadians really have to wake up to an issue to really land on something that can sometimes be a bit technical, that can be in the area of very specific professions or sectors, yet they awoke to it.

When the Prime Minister was talking about this need to break down internal trade barriers, and when our platform came out with this very strong commitment around having one Canadian economy and taking all federal actions necessary by July 1, people awoke to that. They asked me at the doors about that, and they actually contextualized it a bit more broadly. They said they wanted me to do that work because they are interested in what their fellow citizens in Alberta, the Maritimes, Quebec, B.C., the Prairies and the north, what other people in their economy and country, are experiencing.

People awoke to the fact that people in those provinces and people outside urban Ontario had something to offer and that we were stronger together. The thing that was attacking us meant we had to wake up to the need to, as the Minister of Transport and Internal Trade mentioned, find those things that were holding us back. They did not have that 7% figure on the tip of their tongues, but they knew there was something amiss.

I think it comes from a very deep part of our history in Canada, which is that when we have been our most ambitious, when we have been building nations, it is because we have been breaking down barriers. In fact, we have been using transportation systems in part to do that. Canada is an incredibly improbable country. Ninety-five per cent or so of our population lives within 100 miles of this U.S. border.

Growing up, I recall learning up about how New France, as it was called then, was settled with the seigneury, the very narrow strips of land, which is the way a lot of agriculture in Quebec is still organized. The St. Lawrence River was so important to the nation-building project then.

We learned about other waterways, such as the St. Lawrence Seaway, that were important for nation-building projects. I recommend that anyone who lives in an urban riding visit a waterway. For people in southern Ontario, it is actually quite close to check out the Welland Canal. It is an incredible piece of engineering that has opened trade routes that were previously unimaginable. There is the Trent-Severn Waterway. A whole number of nation-building projects based in transportation connect us together.

For those in an urban riding, the biggest piece of machinery they might see is a TTC train, a GO train or an UP Express train, but by going to the Trent-Severn Waterway or the Welland Canal, we can see the full might of Canadian industry on display. It is very important to see these and it is very inspiring.

Transportation has always been at the heart of nation-building projects. Of course, we have the legendary story of the Trans-Canada railway lines that we built that unified this country from east to west. We did make some mistakes along the way in doing that, but it was a vital nation-building project.

I was recently reading Team of Rivals, which is a book about Abraham Lincoln putting together a unity cabinet in the Civil War era. It is a fascinating book. It tells the story about the politics and the economic debates that were happening in the United States before the Civil War. One of the key issues that really divided Americans at the time was the issue of internal improvements, of how much to invest in harbours, light craft and waterways, and all those things that could connect regional economies to each other.

We did this work in Canada. The United States did that work throughout the 19th and 20th century. We continue to do it. It is a key way of uniting and defining us as a country that, again, we have this improbable country that is so close to the U.S. border.

More recently, I have been part of efforts that tried to create more of a national economy, in my earlier life as a policy director to two Ontario premiers. It is hard work.

The Minister of Transport and Internal Trade referred to the New West Partnership, a really important good idea, a Conservative idea primarily at the time, and one that Ontario tried to adopt in similar ways for its local circumstances.

There was a time when Ontario and Quebec had very aligned provincial governments and they really tried to make concerted efforts to align their economies, but it is hard work. It is hard people work. It is often hard engineering work. We would like to have more electricity cross between eastern Canada and western Canada, but finicky interties and all those things get in the way of really connecting our economies.

The human work is just as challenging. I will never forget a briefing when we had the the regional chair of the County of Brant. They were telling us how important their local economic development initiative was compared to that of the City of Brantford, which was within the region of Brant, and how they had to have their own external trade promotion efforts.

I think moments like what we have faced in the last six months have really awakened us to the fact that we have to start to bring some of these issues and initiatives together. What are the internal improvements of the 21st century? They are some of the major investments included in the estimates. I will point out the national trade corridors fund, with $826 million under the Minister of Transport and Internal Trade's portfolio.

I will point out the investments in ports. We have 17 major ports across Canada and the estimates refer to new ports in Montreal and the proposed new port of the Roberts Bank Terminal 2 in Vancouver. We also have the nation-building projects that were discussed in Saskatoon, which include rail, electricity and other projects that will be tackled there. We also have rules to tackle.

I am from New Brunswick so I cannot help but make a little tribute in this House to Gerard Comeau, who brought some of that Quebec beer across the border. He took his fight all the way to the Supreme Court and won. Thank God he did, because he awakened people in this House and elsewhere to the fact that, in my riding, I have High Park Brewery and Junction Craft Brewery. They may be great breweries, and they are great breweries, but do I need to be protected by my government from trying someone else in Canada's beer?

As a New Brunswicker, I truly believe that George Riordon's maple syrup in Pokeshaw is the best maple syrup. However, I am now an Ontarian. As long as it is maple syrup that is all that counts; just none of that table syrup on my pancakes. However, I do not want to be protected from Ontario or Quebec maple syrup. Vermont is another story.

This is hard work. I know there are lots of nation-building projects under the Minister of Transport and Internal Trade's portfolio and a lot of hard work to start to expand our imaginations. I look forward to talking about that more.

Main Estimates, 2025-26Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

8 p.m.

University—Rosedale Ontario

Liberal

Chrystia Freeland LiberalMinister of Transport and Internal Trade

Mr. Chair, I will start by congratulating my colleague, the member for Taiaiako'n—Parkdale—High Park, on his election. I think there may be people here who care about him a lot and who share my pride and delight in hearing him rise in the House.

What a learned, very human and personal set of comments that was about internal trade. Who knew it would be so fun? This is ultimately about doing something that does not cost us anything and makes us richer.

Main Estimates, 2025-26Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

8 p.m.

Liberal

Karim Bardeesy Liberal Taiaiako'n—Parkdale—High Park, ON

Mr. Chair, we heard in the minister's remarks, which I referred to a bit, the many kinds of partnerships that already exist and the many kinds of efforts that have been made over the years to reduce internal trade barriers. I wonder, in her opinion, what she sees as the most exciting opportunities in her portfolio, or what the most egregious internal trade barrier is that she really wants to tackle in her work.

Main Estimates, 2025-26Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

8 p.m.

Liberal

Chrystia Freeland Liberal University—Rosedale, ON

Mr. Chair, who does not love the maple syrup example we have just heard?

Labour mobility is something that also speaks to a lot of Canadians. All of us know examples of families who have moved across the country for the job of one person, and it just takes the partner too long to be able to work. It is frustrating for families, and it hurts our economy.

Personally, I think trucking is really important too, and I will talk about that in my next answer.

Main Estimates, 2025-26Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

8 p.m.

Liberal

Karim Bardeesy Liberal Taiaiako'n—Parkdale—High Park, ON

Mr. Chair, I will pick up on that remark from the minister.

Trucking is one of the top employment sectors in Canada. We know that the sector is going through lots of change, as technology is changing fast, the working conditions that truckers experience are changing rapidly, and the manifest of what they are doing is changing fast because the economy is changing so rapidly. We also know from the Minister of Public Safety's portfolio that there are concerns about what is happening at the border.

This is a sector and a profession that is not talked about very much and, increasingly in southern Ontario anyway, is quite racialized. It is key to unlocking a lot of the economic potential in southern Ontario in particular.

My question is this: What kinds of opportunities exist in the trucking sector, where there are internal trade barriers or labour barriers, that can help people move back and forth and practise this very important profession?

Main Estimates, 2025-26Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

8:05 p.m.

Liberal

Chrystia Freeland Liberal University—Rosedale, ON

Mr. Chair, the fact is that it is too hard to drive a truck across Canada. It should be as easy to drive a truck from Halifax harbour to the port of Vancouver as it is to drive between Toronto and Kitchener. There is no reason that crossing a provincial border should be an obstacle to moving goods and people across the country, but it is.

At the FMM, Premier Houston of Nova Scotia, and I do not think he will mind me saying this, said that if something is good enough to drive in any part of Canada, it's good enough to drive in Nova Scotia. I think that attitude of “Let us trust each other; let us really build one Canadian economy,” is going to be so powerful in making all of us richer. Actually, it is going to bring us together as a community, because it will make it easier for us to work together.

Main Estimates, 2025-26Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

8:05 p.m.

Liberal

Karim Bardeesy Liberal Taiaiako'n—Parkdale—High Park, ON

Mr. Chair, in the minister's portfolio, one of the main ways of binding people, again, is transportation. I know that passenger rail is also under the minister's portfolio. Could she share what the plans and estimates are to help support passenger rail, which connects people across the country?

Main Estimates, 2025-26Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

8:05 p.m.

Liberal

Chrystia Freeland Liberal University—Rosedale, ON

Mr. Chair, I would say high-speed rail between Quebec City and Windsor; what a great nation-building project.

Main Estimates, 2025-26Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

8:05 p.m.

Conservative

Andrew Lawton Conservative Elgin—St. Thomas—London South, ON

Mr. Chair, I will be splitting my time, and I have some questions for the Minister of Public Safety. The minister should know that these are direct questions, and I hope the answers will be similarly direct.

When does the amnesty period end for firearms banned by order in council on May 1, 2020?

Main Estimates, 2025-26Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

8:05 p.m.

Scarborough—Guildwood—Rouge Park Ontario

Liberal

Gary Anandasangaree LiberalMinister of Public Safety

Mr. Chair, let me take a moment to congratulate my colleague for being here. It will be in October.

Main Estimates, 2025-26Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

8:05 p.m.

Conservative

Andrew Lawton Conservative Elgin—St. Thomas—London South, ON

Mr. Chair, will all firearms banned in that, and in subsequent orders in council, be seized by then?

Main Estimates, 2025-26Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

8:05 p.m.

Liberal

Gary Anandasangaree Liberal Scarborough—Guildwood—Rouge Park, ON

Mr. Chair, no.

Main Estimates, 2025-26Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

8:05 p.m.

Conservative

Andrew Lawton Conservative Elgin—St. Thomas—London South, ON

Mr. Chair, is the government extending the amnesty?

Main Estimates, 2025-26Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

8:05 p.m.

Liberal

Gary Anandasangaree Liberal Scarborough—Guildwood—Rouge Park, ON

Mr. Chair, we are looking at options.

Main Estimates, 2025-26Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

8:05 p.m.

Conservative

Andrew Lawton Conservative Elgin—St. Thomas—London South, ON

Mr. Chair, how much has the Liberal government spent so far on the confiscation scheme?

Main Estimates, 2025-26Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

8:05 p.m.

Liberal

Gary Anandasangaree Liberal Scarborough—Guildwood—Rouge Park, ON

Mr. Chair, the total amount budgeted is $597.9 million over three years.

Main Estimates, 2025-26Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

8:05 p.m.

Conservative

Andrew Lawton Conservative Elgin—St. Thomas—London South, ON

Mr. Chair, the question was this: How much has been spent to date?

Main Estimates, 2025-26Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

8:05 p.m.

Liberal

Gary Anandasangaree Liberal Scarborough—Guildwood—Rouge Park, ON

Mr. Chair—

Main Estimates, 2025-26Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

8:05 p.m.

Conservative

Andrew Lawton Conservative Elgin—St. Thomas—London South, ON

Mr. Chair, the government's own numbers in September of last year said it was $67.2 million. How has the amount gone down in the intervening months?

Main Estimates, 2025-26Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

8:05 p.m.

Liberal

Gary Anandasangaree Liberal Scarborough—Guildwood—Rouge Park, ON

Mr. Chair, it is $20 million for the first phase of the business buyback. More will be allocated and is allocated towards the individual gun owners.

Main Estimates, 2025-26Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

8:05 p.m.

Conservative

Andrew Lawton Conservative Elgin—St. Thomas—London South, ON

Mr. Chair, how much has been spent in total by the government between May 1, 2020 and now?

Main Estimates, 2025-26Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

8:05 p.m.

Liberal

Gary Anandasangaree Liberal Scarborough—Guildwood—Rouge Park, ON

Mr. Chair, it is $20 million.

Main Estimates, 2025-26Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

8:05 p.m.

Conservative

Andrew Lawton Conservative Elgin—St. Thomas—London South, ON

Mr. Chair, how has the number gotten $50 million smaller than in September 2024?

Main Estimates, 2025-26Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

June 5th, 2025 / 8:10 p.m.

Liberal

Gary Anandasangaree Liberal Scarborough—Guildwood—Rouge Park, ON

Mr. Chair, part of the cost goes towards administration and setting up the program, but on the buyback itself it is $20 million that has been spent.

Main Estimates, 2025-26Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

8:10 p.m.

Conservative

Andrew Lawton Conservative Elgin—St. Thomas—London South, ON

Mr. Chair, is the minister giving a number that is deliberately deflated?