Debates of June 9th, 2025

Main Estimates and Supplementary Estimates (A), 2025-26

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

Mr. Chair, the member is aware that the regulation sets us toward targets to increase the number of sales of EVs across our country.

[Dan Mazier, Conservative, Riding Mountain, MB]

Mr. Chair, is the target mandatory or optional?

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

Mr. Chair, it is a regulation that sets out clear targets for the sale of EVs and—

[The Assistant Deputy Chair, Conservative, John Nater]

The hon. member.

[Dan Mazier, Conservative, Riding Mountain, MB]

Mr. Chair, according to the Liberal Party's website, the government set a “mandatory target” that all new light-duty cars and passenger truck sales be zero emissions by 2035. Is this statement correct?

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

Mr. Chair, we do have in place a regulation that sets consistently increasing targets for EV sales, going to 100%, and there are flexibilities built within that regulation that, if we wanted to have a larger conversation about, we could speak about.

[Dan Mazier, Conservative, Riding Mountain, MB]

Mr. Chair, do the government's regulations prohibit the sale of new, fully gas-powered cars in Canada after 2035, yes or no?

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

Mr. Chair, the regulations have been set out toward making more EVs available to Canadians, moving in different progressed stripes all the way to 2035. That regulation remains in place, but we are certainly looking at—

[The Assistant Deputy Chair, Conservative, John Nater]

The hon. member.

[Dan Mazier, Conservative, Riding Mountain, MB]

Mr. Chair, will this regulation prohibit the sale of new, fully gas-powered cars in Canada by 2035, yes or no?

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

Mr. Chair, EVs are actually a very strongly growing segment of the world economy for sales. We are making sure Canadians have access to them.

[Dan Mazier, Conservative, Riding Mountain, MB]

Mr. Chair, does the minister trust her department?

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

Mr. Chair, that is such a strange question. Obviously, I work with the public service, and we should all be very proud of the work that it does.

[Dan Mazier, Conservative, Riding Mountain, MB]

Mr. Chair, did the minister take her department's advice?

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

Mr. Chair, is the member opposite questioning the quality of work that comes from our public service? I believe we have a very strong public service that I am proud to work with.

[Dan Mazier, Conservative, Riding Mountain, MB]

Mr. Chair, the question was, does the minister take her department's advice, yes or no?

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

Mr. Chair, what I said is that I work with the strong public service we have, which provides strong advice on which we base policy, absolutely, as we—

[The Assistant Deputy Chair, Conservative, John Nater]

The hon. member.

[Dan Mazier, Conservative, Riding Mountain, MB]

Mr. Chair, has the minister read her department's regulatory impact analysis on the zero-emissions vehicle sales mandate, yes or no?

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

Mr. Chair, I have worked on the regulation specifically. I was actually the one who made the announcement.

[Dan Mazier, Conservative, Riding Mountain, MB]

Mr. Chair, has the minister read it, yes or no?

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

Mr. Chair, I worked on that regulation directly, spoke with industry and understand the impacts in the RIAS as well.

[Dan Mazier, Conservative, Riding Mountain, MB]

Mr. Chair, how much money will the government's zero-emissions vehicle mandate cost Canadians?

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

Mr. Chair, we are talking about an industry that employs many in Ontario, which is my home province, and I work—

[The Assistant Deputy Chair, Conservative, John Nater]

The hon. member.