House of Commons Hansard #28 of the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was communities.

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Statements by Members

Question Period

The Conservatives criticize the government's failure to address rising gun crime, accusing the Public Safety Minister of incompetence and calling for his firing over a "politically motivated scam" gun buyback program. They also highlight soaring food prices and record food bank use, leading to seniors skipping meals, while demanding action on the housing crisis.
The Liberals defend their gun buyback program and efforts to tighten border security with Bill C-2. They highlight tax cuts for Canadians, investments in childcare, dental care, and a national school food program. They also emphasize their commitment to affordable housing and defending the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
The Bloc condemns the government's Supreme Court brief, which insults Quebec over its use of the notwithstanding clause regarding secularism. They also demand action on climate change, urging a move away from oil and gas and listening to municipal officials instead of promoting fossil fuels.
The NDP highlights stalled funding for the Indigenous housing strategy amidst an escalating crisis for Indigenous, Inuit, and Métis peoples.

Canadian Heritage Members present reports on tech giants, online harms, and media. Conservatives oppose Bills C-11 and C-18, citing censorship, and advocate for new laws to criminalize online sexual exploitation and deepfakes. 400 words.

Petitions

Combatting Hate Crime Second reading of Bill C-9. The bill aims to combat hate crimes and propaganda by creating new offences for obstruction and intimidation of access to religious or cultural places, enhancing penalties for hate-motivated crimes, and criminalizing the public display of certain hate or terrorist symbols. It also codifies the definition of "hatred" and removes the Attorney General's consent for hate propaganda charges. Conservatives argue the bill is flawed and late, raising concerns about the definition of hatred and potential for private prosecutions to impact free speech. The Bloc Québécois seeks to remove the religious exemption for hate speech. 21900 words, 3 hours.

Adjournment Debates

Prime Minister's financial holdings Michael Cooper raises concerns about Trudeau's financial interests in Brookfield Asset Management and potential conflicts of interest. Kevin Lamoureux defends Trudeau, stating that he complies with the Ethics Commissioner's requirements and that the focus should be on policy debates, not character assassination.
Addressing the Unemployment Crisis Garnett Genuis raises concerns about rising unemployment, especially among young Canadians, and blames government policies. Kevin Lamoureux defends the government's economic initiatives, including major projects and immigration reforms. Genuis insists the government is failing, and Lamoureux highlights investments and initiatives aimed at job creation.
GTA Housing Market Jacob Mantle questions Caroline Desrochers about the stalled housing market in the GTA, despite the GST cut for first-time homebuyers. Desrochers defends the government's "build Canada homes" plan with its $13 billion in investments. Mantle says it's harder than ever to buy a home in Canada, and Desrochers says the government is taking immediate action.
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4:15 p.m.

Bloc

Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe Bloc Lac-Saint-Jean, QC

Madam Speaker, while we are on the topic of making suggestions in good faith, I am not sure whether this was an accidental or deliberate oversight by the minister and his team, but unfortunately this bill does not remove the religious exemption for hate speech. It is currently possible to publicly engage in hate speech in the name of religion, and we think that is completely absurd. We introduced a bill to fix this during the last Parliament. I had the opportunity to sponsor it.

Is the minister open to adding this item to the bill if we were to propose an amendment?

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4:15 p.m.

Liberal

Sean Fraser Liberal Central Nova, NS

Madam Speaker, first, allow me to thank my colleague for his question and for giving me the opportunity to practise my French.

During my conversations with visible minority groups, many people told me that the reforms set out in this bill need to be implemented.

Some people made suggestions similar to the one the member just raised. I heard stories about religious leaders using the religious exemption in court. In my view, that does not come from a place of good faith.

I would like to make a suggestion. If members of the Bloc Québécois or the other parties would like to have a conversation, taking into account the expert testimony heard in committee, and if a majority of members vote in favour of adding these measures, I would have no objection to that. It is very important that we work with all members of the House to come up with a bill that protects the community.

In my opinion, the best thing would be if a majority of members from all parties supported this bill.

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4:15 p.m.

Green

Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC

Madam Speaker, to my hon. colleague, I know his intentions are good, but I am with the hon. member for Brantford—Brant South—Six Nations. I do not think the Liberals have lowered in this bill the definition of hatred; they have just made it impenetrable. I do not understand why, when we already have so many strong pieces of legislation within the Criminal Code and against hate crimes elsewhere, they decided to change the definition of hatred to mean “the emotion that involves detestation or vilification and that is stronger than disdain or dislike.” It does not make sense to add new legislation where it is not needed and make it more confusing.

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4:20 p.m.

Liberal

Sean Fraser Liberal Central Nova, NS

Madam Speaker, the questioner knows the affection I have for her as a friend and the respect I have for her as a parliamentary colleague. With enormous respect, my goal here is to offer protections to Canadians who do not see themselves reflected in the hate crimes included in Canada's Criminal Code today. We see too often that people are able to commit heinous acts with impunity against their fellow Canadians who come from particular community groups. As I have said in my response to previous questioners, my real hope is that we can collaborate to advance reforms that will offer protections to Canadians without compromising the ability of others to express themselves freely. I will work in good faith with members on all sides of the aisle in order to implement the kinds of reforms that will help keep our neighbours safe.

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4:20 p.m.

Liberal

Iqra Khalid Liberal Mississauga—Erin Mills, ON

Madam Speaker, I thank the minister for the phenomenal presentation.

I am a young, brown, Muslim woman who represents my constituents in my riding of Mississauga—Erin Mills. The amount of hate that I and my colleagues who are similar to me, women in professional atmospheres, face on a regular basis is oftentimes devastating and hurtful to our functioning as individual citizens and as members of Parliament.

Maybe the minister can help us by clarifying how Bill C-9 would help support women, especially those of colour, to continue to give back to Canada and build our communities stronger.

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4:20 p.m.

Liberal

Sean Fraser Liberal Central Nova, NS

Madam Speaker, I want to share a reflection about the parliamentary work of my colleague. She has been an inspiration to me for many years. I remember what she was subjected to when she had the courage to move forward with what was then Motion No. 103 to deal with Islamophobia in this country. Though I was proud to support it, I was so disappointed with the reaction from some corners of society toward someone who was seeking to make Canada a safer place for all.

This piece of legislation would ensure that a person, no matter what characteristic they are being discriminated for, will have protections through Canada's criminal law as they go about their lives on a day-to-day basis. In particular, for any crime in Canada, if we can identify the motivation of hatred behind it, we would have the opportunity for people to participate freely in their communities, women and women of colour as well, to ensure they will not be subjected to hate without a perpetrator being subjected to criminal law.

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September 24th, 2025 / 4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Roman Baber Conservative York Centre, ON

Madam Speaker, to follow up on the concern articulated by the shadow minister, it was open for the government to lean on the subsequent definition in Whatcott, where the Supreme Court defined “hatred”. I cannot help but notice that the words “extreme manifestations” are missing from the proposed definition in Bill C-9.

To add to that, I have a further concern that I hope the Attorney General can address for us. The legislation seeks to remove the provincial Attorney General's consent to the laying of hate charges, which may in itself be explainable. However, the Attorney General's consent would also catch private prosecutions, which we know are a process where informants lay charges before a provincial magistrate. The consent there would also not be required, opening the process to vexatious litigants. I wonder if the Attorney General is concerned about that.

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4:20 p.m.

Liberal

Sean Fraser Liberal Central Nova, NS

Madam Speaker, my hon. colleague has raised two questions.

With respect to the first, by way of summary, we engaged directly with law enforcement who asked for simple definitions that would offer clarity to them and help them in enforcing the criminal law when it comes to hate crimes in this country.

On the second issue, which engages the topic of the requirement that exists today that the Attorney General consent to these charges being laid, or in the member's circumstance, private prosecutions, it is my view that the law would be better left to be enforced by those who have independence from political considerations. When we see that there is a political layer on top of the assessment of law enforcement, we can foresee a set of circumstances where a person in the future, though I do not believe this to be the case with any of my provincial colleagues today, may seek to use their political judgment to not allow a charge to move forward. I think that would have devastating consequences.

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4:25 p.m.

Bloc

Mario Simard Bloc Jonquière, QC

Madam Speaker, I applaud the minister's open-mindedness. In response to a question earlier, he indicated that he was open to reviewing in committee the exemption granted to religious groups when it comes to hate symbols. I would like him to repeat his position, just to be sure.

What I understood from the minister is that he is open to a discussion in committee to see whether the exemption for hate symbols could be removed. I do not believe that any hate symbols should be tolerated based on religious principles.

Did I understand correctly what the minister said earlier?

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4:25 p.m.

Liberal

Sean Fraser Liberal Central Nova, NS

Madam Speaker, my position on this exemption is that there is now an obligation to demonstrate good faith. I do not think it is in good faith for someone to use the exemption to avoid responsibility for a criminal offence.

I am open to that. If the majority of the committee members vote to change the exemption based on the testimony they hear, I am open to that change.

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4:25 p.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Alexandra Mendès) Alexandra Mendes

It is my duty pursuant to Standing Order 38 to inform the House that the questions to be raised tonight at the time of adjournment are as follows: the hon. member for St. Albert—Sturgeon River, Ethics; the hon. member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, Employment; the hon. member for York—Durham, Housing.

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4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant South—Six Nations, ON

Madam Speaker, I have couple of housekeeping matters to address. I seek consent from the House to be able to split my time.

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Some hon. members

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4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant South—Six Nations, ON

Madam Speaker, I thank my colleagues, and I will be splitting my time with my colleague, the member for Montmorency—Charlevoix.

It is always a pleasure to rise and speak on behalf of the incredible residents who put me in this incredible position to represent them in the House of Commons. Today, I rise to speak to this government bill, Bill C-9, the combatting hate act.

Let me begin where I think all of us in the House can agree. We support the objective of protecting vulnerable communities from the rising levels of hate and extremism that we see literally daily in this country. We support giving police and prosecutors the tools they need to keep Canadians safe from coast to coast in their homes, in their schools, in their places of worship and in community spaces. However, the bill itself is flawed in its current form. It cannot go ahead as the Liberals have drafted it, and it is my duty today to explain why.

First, we need to talk about timing. Where was this legislation almost two years ago? We are about to approach the anniversary of the October 7 massacre in Israel. Where was this government in terms of advancing legislation? Literally overnight, we saw an expansion of hatred directed towards Jewish people. It was not just in large cities; it penetrated the entire country. Jewish Canadians were targeted in their communities. Students were harassed simply for going to school. Synagogues across this country were being shot at and firebombed on a regular basis and had to increase their level of security. Where was the Liberal government to address these criminal acts? Where were the Liberals as Islamophobia rose in Canada, when mosques were threatened and Muslim families felt unsafe simply walking in their neighbourhood?

Let us not forget that there is absolutely zero reference to Christianity. Christianity is under attack in this country.

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4:25 p.m.

An hon. member

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4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant South—Six Nations, ON

Madam Speaker, I do not know what was funny about Christianity being under attack, but nevertheless, Christian churches have been burned at an alarming rate. Between May 2021 and December 2023, thirty-three Christian churches were burned in this country, with the vast majority being arson-based.

For years, communities cried out for protection. What they got instead from their federal Liberal government was silence. Now, years late, the government has tabled a bill that, quite frankly, feels more like a political gesture than a serious plan.

Make no mistake, the numbers are alarming. Since 2015, police-reported hate crimes in Canada have increased by 258%. Anti-Semitic hate crimes alone are up 416%. Hate crimes against South Asians have risen by almost 380%. In 2024 alone, Canada saw almost 5,000 police-reported hate crimes, the highest number on record. In Toronto alone, hate crime occurrences jumped by 19% in a single year, with assault-related hate crimes rising by 42%.

These numbers are not just statistics. They represent real Canadians, our neighbours, our friends, our co-workers and our children, who all deserve confidence in knowing they are safe and secure. This is why Conservatives have been abundantly clear that we support stronger protections, but supporting that objective does not mean rubber-stamping a flawed piece of legislation.

What are the problems with Bill C-9?

The bill, as drafted, is vague and broad. Civil liberty organizations across Canada have already raised the alarm. The Canadian Civil Liberties Association has warned that the intimidation and obstruction provisions risk capturing peaceful protest and legitimate dissent.

The BC Civil Liberties Association said the same. The poorly drafted language could criminalize demonstrations even when they are peaceful and lawful. These are independent organizations dedicated to protecting charter rights, and they are telling us loudly that Bill C-9 risks going too far.

We have heard, by way of questioning of the minister, that there would be removal of Attorney General consent for hate propaganda charges. Police officers and prosecutors I have spoken with view that consent as an important safeguard, a so-called safety valve that ensures that these powerful tools are not misused.

In response to a question from my colleague from York Centre, the minister, in my view, minimized the potential consequential impact of removing Attorney General consent from private prosecutions. His response was that they want to remove political influence. As a former member of the attorney general's office in the province of Ontario, I am rather offended by that, because he is indicating that my boss at that time, the provincial attorney general, was highly political, and that his consent or her consent to continuing a prosecution was made depending on what political affiliation he or she belonged to. That is nonsense, absolute nonsense. It is a safety valve that has been in place for some significant time. It is not an onerous requirement and it ensures that legitimate charges are prosecuted as laid by the police.

More importantly, the requirement for consent would limit and almost completely eliminate overzealous litigants, private litigants, who feel, for whatever reason, that they want to lay a private complaint against another individual for comments that they deem to be offensive in the circumstances. It provides a very important safeguard.

The third problem I identify is the definition of hatred, and I have raised this issue already with the minister.

Bill C-9, as drafted, as the government indicates and as the minister just indicated, would codify the definition of hatred found in the Supreme Court of Canada as “detestation or vilification”. On its face, this seems consistent, but by removing the word “extreme” from the definition as defined by learned justices in the Supreme Court of Canada, the government has lowered the legal threshold, enabling police to lay a multitude of charges at a lower level of inspection and investigation, which, in my view, could open up the floodgates for litigation. That is a concern.

When they codify, they should be using the exact same words as the Supreme Court of Canada. The risk is that speech that is protected in a free democracy could be swept into a different category as true hate. This is not what Canadians want. It is not what our charter says.

Let me be clear. Conservatives support the goal of keeping Canadians safe from hate-motivated crime. We support police and prosecutors having the tools they need to act. We support ensuring that synagogues, mosques, cultural centres and schools are safe, but we also support protecting civil liberties.

I am going to conclude with the following. Canadians deserve protection from hate. They need to feel safe wherever they may be. They deserve to live in a country where freedom of speech and peaceful protests are respected. Bill C-9, as drafted, does not get that balance right. It is flawed. It is late. It cannot proceed in its current form.

We support protecting Canadians from threats, intimidation, obstruction and violence, but we will not rubber-stamp a flawed bill. We will stand up for vulnerable communities and for civil liberties. We will push for a law that truly represents and protects Canadians without undermining the freedoms that define us as a country. That is our commitment, that is our responsibility and that is the balance Canadians expect us to strike.

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4:35 p.m.

Brampton North—Caledon Ontario

Liberal

Ruby Sahota LiberalSecretary of State (Combatting Crime)

Madam Speaker, in consultations for this piece of legislation, we heard from many Jewish organizations. One issue they brought up was that having to have the charge cleared through the Attorney General made it so cumbersome that no charges were ever laid. Although there are currently provisions for hate crimes, although not a stand-alone one like the one the bill would create, they were very rarely enforced, and the community felt oftentimes threatened and intimidated, feeling like they were victims of hate crimes that were never prosecuted in court.

I want to know what my colleague feels about those comments that came from Jewish organizations.

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4:35 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant South—Six Nations, ON

Madam Speaker, I have several responses.

I want to highlight again that obtaining Attorney General consent is not a cumbersome process. There are a number of potential prosecutions and offences currently in the Criminal Code that already require Attorney General consent, so I can lay to rest the issue that it is too time-consuming and would delay a potential prosecution, because it is not reality.

The other issue that the member raises is the issue of whether private prosecutions can be overcome by Attorney General consent, and as I indicated in my speech, that raises the spectre of overzealous litigants simply abusing the process. The act is currently stating that this particular form of hatred needs to be attached to another offence of any other act of Parliament, so that could include our political opponents under the Canada Elections Act. There could be numerous examples where things that are said under the guise of freedom of expression can be determined by a political opponent to be vilifying or to somehow have a detestation element and therefore they want to proceed with the prosecution. That is why we need Attorney General consent.

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4:35 p.m.

Bloc

Mario Simard Bloc Jonquière, QC

Madam Speaker, as we have indicated, Bill C‑9 has some merit. It needs to be studied at committee.

Earlier, in response to two questions we asked him, the minister told us that he might be prepared to review the religious exemption as part of the study in committee.

Are the Conservatives open to that as well? Are they willing to review the religious exemption granted when hateful symbols are displayed?

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4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant South—Six Nations, ON

Madam Speaker, nothing is off the table.

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4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly McCauley Conservative Edmonton West, AB

Madam Speaker, my colleague brought up the issue of churches being burnt down. We have seen a massive increase in hate attacks across the country since this government took power 10 long years ago. I wonder if my colleague could comment on why it has taken the government so long to act and also on the previous prime minister's comment about burning churches down being fully understandable.

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4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant South—Six Nations, ON

Madam Speaker, I find Justin Trudeau's comments in this House and outside this House with respect to the burning down of Christian churches to be absolutely repulsive. It was a disgusting statement by the head of a G7 country, and in my view, it is emblematic of how this government has vilified Christianity in the House of Commons. Every time a church was burned, we would bring it up in the House of Commons, trying to elicit a response from this government, and there was nothing but crickets on that side, which is disgusting.

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4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Gabriel Hardy Conservative Montmorency—Charlevoix, QC

Madam Speaker, I am always proud to represent the people of Montmorency—Charlevoix. I travelled around my riding all summer and I met with people. I went on a whistle-stop tour of all of the towns. Obviously, people talked to me about the issues that are on their minds right now, particularly access to housing, grocery prices and inflation. They also talked to me about the feeling of safety we have long enjoyed in Montmorency—Charlevoix, as well as in the rest of Quebec and Canada. We live in a safe country. However, people are noticing that that is gradually changing for the worse.

In my opinion, Bill C-9, which seeks to amend the Criminal Code with regard to hate, is well intentioned, but it must be be thoroughly examined. As we consider this bill, I would like to take the time to talk about the reasons why we are where we are today.

I believe we live in an excessively fast-paced society. People have access to information or disinformation in an instant. Quite often, people react very strongly to things they see on social media, such as a photo, a short video or a post. Debates become heated. People take sides and are rooted in their positions. Then they make enemies. Often, it is not just one enemy, but hundreds or even thousands of enemies. A short message on social media can escalate very quickly. Recently, in the United States, there was a video of a woman who took a young boy's baseball from him in a rather surprising interaction. The video was everywhere. The woman was harassed and her life was turned upside down. A small blip on social media can cause a really big stir.

There are a lot of what I call “masked vigilantes” online. These people take to their keyboards under the cover of anonymity, sometimes with fake accounts, sometimes even using real accounts. They feel they have excessive rights, and they take a stand. They try to create chaos online and they like to attract attention with their opinions, but they are not very knowledgeable. These are just angry and aggressive opinions, which social media loves.

I often refer to social media as extreme media. Extremist groups, like social media, are currently designed to activate these relationships, to push them further and make people believe that society is extremely left wing or extremely right wing. Algorithms are designed to show people only what they like, what they give a “like” to, what they watch.

Our phone can even analyze our scroll speed and our eye movements and use them as sources of information. Then it gives us only what we like the most. In fact, our phones are starting to know us better than we know ourselves.

We end up believing that everyone thinks the way we do, when the majority of people are more centrist. We would know that if we took the time to talk to one another.

There is also the notion of friendship. These days, we do not have as many people in our social circle. Everything happens on social media. We have hundreds, even thousands of friends, but very few know us. I think that is a serious problem.

We live in a society that, in my opinion, is very stressful, and there are four well-known stress factors: novelty, unpredictability, lack of control, and damage to self-esteem. When self-esteem is damaged, that causes stress. We live in a world that is extremely stressful.

The last few years have been extremely unpredictable and much has changed. It feels like things are out of control due to everything that is happening, particularly in terms of the cost of living, inflation, housing, and so on. In my region, things have changed a lot, and that is also true elsewhere. When we look at international politics, we wonder whether the world as we know it is collapsing. This is putting significant stress on society. I think that that leads to increasingly extreme positions.

Obviously, the solution is never to go to extremes. I would like to reference a very interesting statistic. Based on what we have seen to date, between 30% and 40% of the content on social media is not created by humans. It is created by artificial intelligence with the aim of getting a reaction. Often, people think they are interacting with a person and they try to convince that person, but they are actually trying to convince a robot, whose main objective is to get them to react. Once again, this creates extreme emotions in people and has a very polarizing effect. Once the snowball starts rolling, people either feel alone or think everyone shares their opinion, when, ultimately, the Internet is just telling people what they want to hear.

I also think that individualism has become a serious issue. It is as though each person has become the centre of their own universe, and people have largely forgotten about collectivism.

The one thing I did a lot this summer when travelling around Montmorency—Charlevoix was talk about history. Quebec and Canada evolved through collaboration and hard work. They did not evolve because people isolated themselves, avoided talking to one other and were in constant disagreement. When the individual is put before the collective good, I think society moves in the wrong direction.

I also think people have a hard time differentiating between news and facts. Social media, even the major news networks, spreads opinions to get a reaction out of people. People think they are facts, when they are actually opinions. Once again, this polarizes society and means that we no longer listen to each other.

Everything moves so fast that we speak before we listen, we form opinions before we know what we are talking about and we condemn people before we even understand the situation. I think that is what society's treatment of hate crimes stems from. In recent years, society seems to have allowed certain companies, or a certain system, to take hold and foment polarization and hatred. I think that today, we have to speak out to protect society.

Obviously freedom of expression is essential, but the way we live together as a society is also extremely important. In my opinion, this should once again be part of the debate. The idea that individual freedom should always come first, that small groups should get to monopolize the public arena to promote their opinions because they believe they have something to say, is something I do not agree with. Our goal should be harmonious coexistence and freedom for the majority. The one should not supersede the other, and we must learn to make them coexist.

Freedom is not synonymous with chaos. Far too often, a person is given the right to express themselves, but they conflate the right to express themselves and report a fact with the ideological right to act however they want, at any cost, without thinking about the consequences.

We must remain logical, pragmatic and thoughtful. Our society must encourage dialogue and listening and support discussion.

Things have gone downhill in recent years and crime has skyrocketed.

Over the past 10 years, since the Liberal government has been in office, violent crime has increased by 55%. Gun crime is up 130%. Extortion is up 330%. Homicides are up 29%. Sexual crime is up 76% and auto theft is up 25%. However, the government looked at all that and decided that what we need is new legislation to deal with the issue of hate.

I believe that we have a serious crime problem and that we should begin by giving our law enforcement agencies a clear definition of public order and providing the support they need to defend that order.

We must not miss the mark, as the government is currently doing with the firearm buyback program, for example. The government is missing the mark with this legislation that is nothing but smoke and mirrors. What we need is police officers who not only keep the peace but also protect the public order.

This firearm buyback program clearly shows that, ultimately, what the government wants is to give itself more power. However, by giving itself more power, it is missing the mark. This is a $750‑million program that the minister himself says will not work. Now they are starting to say that participation will have to be voluntary, when it is not. Going after licensed sport shooters and hunters does not seem like a good option to me.

What could we do with $750 million? Obviously, we could support our police officers. We could get good border officers, the necessary resources and even technology.

In Montmorency—Charlevoix, some companies make surveillance drones that could be used to monitor our borders more efficiently and prevent the weapons that are often used in hate crimes from entering the country.

Lastly, condemning hate is crucial, and we can all agree on that, but the Liberals have a bad habit of making the law more complex. We should start by supporting our law enforcement agencies, clarifying what public order means, helping our police officers and ensuring that people here in Canada feel safe and supported.

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Liberal

Guillaume Deschênes-Thériault Liberal Madawaska—Restigouche, NB

Madam Speaker, I would like to thank my colleague for his speech, which included some pretty interesting parts. He talked about living together as a society. A little later, he mentioned the bill, referring to it as smoke and mirrors.

The bill before us, which seeks to combat hate crimes, is definitely not smoke and mirrors, especially for people living in fear, people who face intimidation when they go to their places of worship, their religious institutions or their schools. These are essential measures to ensure that people can indeed live together in communal harmony and feel safe walking down the street.

I would like to know whether my colleague plans to vote in favour of the bill. Does he intend to work with us in good faith to ensure that it passes?