House of Commons Hansard #156 of the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was young.

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Petitions

Opposition Motion—Appearance of the Prime Minister before the Standing Committee on Finance Members debate a Conservative motion asking the Prime Minister to testify before the Finance Committee about deficits, debt interest and taxes. Conservatives cite rising borrowing costs and affordability pressures; Liberals defend strategic investment, affordability programs and Canada’s relative fiscal position. The Bloc supports inviting the Prime Minister, while questioning the government’s fiscal accounting and priorities. The motion calls for testimony on public finances. 49100 words, 6 hours in 2 segments: 1 2.

Statements by Members

Question Period

The Conservatives criticize rising debt and interest costs, question the government’s fiscal plans, and blame high immigration for housing shortages. They oppose the oil tanker ban, challenge the government’s handling of steel tariffs, and demand accountability for subsidies to employers of illegal workers and the Prime Minister’s wife’s ocean-envoy role.
The Liberals promote economic growth through market diversification, EU trade ties, major projects and investment, and tax incentives for businesses. They defend their fiscal record and support for families, while emphasizing housing construction and responsible immigration. They also highlight partnerships with Indigenous peoples, steel jobs, fisheries funding, and ocean protection.
The Bloc denounces the federal government for excluding Quebec’s premier from speaking at the Canada–Europe summit, arguing Quebec’s voice and interests must be represented on trade and jurisdictional issues. It also opposes Bill C‑39’s strike-breaking powers, warning they threaten workers’ rights and freedom of association.
The NDP defend the north coast tanker ban and call for Canadian shipbuilding investment to create union jobs.

Relieving Grieving Parents of an Administrative Burden Act (Evan's Law) Report stage of Bill C-222. The bill amends EI and the Canada Labour Code so parents who lose a child can continue parental benefits and retain job-protected leave, including additional bereavement support, without repeated reporting or a new claim. Speakers from multiple parties support the measure and call for further consideration of protections when a parent dies. 5200 words, 30 minutes.

Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities Members debate a committee report on youth unemployment, with Conservatives urging tax and red-tape cuts, targeted training, housing near jobs and immigration aligned with labour needs. Liberals cite summer jobs and skilled-trades initiatives, while the Bloc emphasizes Quebec’s jurisdiction over training and employment and calls for tailored solutions and EI reform. 20300 words, 2 hours.

Adjournment Debates

Calls for justice on MMIWG Elizabeth May questions the government’s urgency in implementing the 231 calls for justice, noting Indigenous women and girls remain at risk and many commitments are delayed. Ryan Turnbull says work has begun on nearly three-quarters of the calls and cites investments in Indigenous-led services, alerts, shelters and survivor support, while acknowledging more work is needed.
Manitoba major projects Grant Jackson says Manitoba is being overlooked, noting none of the 20 projects listed by the Major Projects Office are in the province, and demands concrete investment plans. Ryan Turnbull says Manitoba is a priority, points to the Port of Churchill transformative strategy, and says the government is ready to advance qualifying projects.
Canada Health Infoway audit Dan Mazier questions how much Canada Health Infoway is spending to defend against former CEO Michael Green’s lawsuit and asks whether the promised third-party audit has been hired. Ryan Turnbull points to the government’s announced review and audit, saying the Auditor General considers them sufficient and further work duplicative.
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Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with DisabilitiesConcurrence in Committee ReportsOrders of the Day

6:20 p.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Mr. Speaker, in part, the member is factually incorrect. I said in my comments, if he was listening, that back in 2012, which is when he was working for Stephen Harper, the Stephen Harper government had over 14% youth unemployment at a time when the economy was doing relatively well.

In 2025, the youth unemployment rate was under 14%. That is not something we should be proud of, and that is the reason I spent the time I did on the types of programs that we believe are important to get more young people working. That is what it is. The member talks about unemployment stats, and I have a stat for him. There have been over 150,000 net jobs created since the Prime Minister was elected just under a year and a half ago.

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6:20 p.m.

Bloc

Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe Bloc Lac-Saint-Jean, QC

Mr. Speaker, my question is not complicated. I want my colleague opposite to give me a clear answer.

Is labour mobility a federal jurisdiction or a Quebec jurisdiction?

That is the only question I have for him.

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6:20 p.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Mr. Speaker, my answer to the member would be that he should check with constituents to find out if there is an electrician with a Red Seal who feels that they should have the opportunity to do electrical work outside of the province of Quebec.

I can tell the member that individuals with a Red Seal are very proud of the fact that they did the training and spent the money that was necessary to get that Red Seal because it enables them to practise their skill set beyond the province—

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6:20 p.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker John Nater

We do try to have the answer be about the same length as the question or comment.

We will continue with questions and comments. The hon. member for Nanaimo—Ladysmith.

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6:20 p.m.

Conservative

Tamara Kronis Conservative Nanaimo—Ladysmith, BC

Mr. Speaker, in response to my colleague's last question, the member opposite tried to go back to 2012 to argue that this youth unemployment problem is one that has persisted. He also said that the government is putting programs in place that are going to solve it.

My question is, why did the government not put those programs in place a decade ago when they had the opportunity?

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6:20 p.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Mr. Speaker, the member needs a refresh on when the last election was, when Canadians actually chose a new Prime Minister and 70-plus new members of the House of Commons to form the government.

If she were to consult with many people, she would find that there has been a shift in public policy. She will find that there has been a litany of things to support our young people, all of which I think are making a positive difference, but we do need to do more, and we will continue to work on youth unemployment.

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6:20 p.m.

Bloc

Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe Bloc Lac-Saint-Jean, QC

Mr. Speaker, I asked my colleague a question.

The Constitution exists; it clearly sets out areas of jurisdiction, and there are agreements between the provinces, Quebec and the federal government.

My question is simple, and I want him to give me the right answer.

Is labour mobility a federal jurisdiction or a Quebec jurisdiction? That is all I want to know.

Is he able to answer that question? If he cannot do so, what is he doing in the House?

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6:20 p.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Mr. Speaker, much like many other issues that face an economy and beyond, we find that our constituents want the different levels of government to work together collaboratively with different stakeholders to get the type of results that our constituents expect of government. They want governments to work together as opposed to the constant divide and conquer that the Bloc tries to promote inside the House.

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6:20 p.m.

Conservative

Tamara Kronis Conservative Nanaimo—Ladysmith, BC

Mr. Speaker, in response to my last question, the hon. member across the way said that there is a new government and that it has changed from the old government, and that is why the Liberals did not put these programs in place then.

I would like to know if the member now admits that the government he was part of for 10 years was a failure.

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6:25 p.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Mr. Speaker, I definitely do not. There are many things we could talk about, such as CPP or some tax breaks. There is a litany of things that the previous government did well. I would even go further to say that even Stephen Harper did some things well too.

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6:25 p.m.

Bloc

Andréanne Larouche Bloc Shefford, QC

Mr. Speaker, I rise this evening to speak to an issue that is of concern to many: youth employment. This evening, I will try to use facts to properly present our position on the report of the Standing Committee on Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities, of which I have been a member since February.

The report illustrates the gravity of the situation that young people are facing. From January to August 2025, the youth unemployment rate reached an average of 14%, the highest level since 2012, excluding the COVID-19 acute phase from 2020 to 2021 and the global financial crisis in 2009. Meanwhile, the overall unemployment rate was 7.1% in July 2025. The youth unemployment rate is normally always a few points higher than the overall average, but the difference is off the charts right now.

However, I am going to have to take a position straightaway in my speech on the matter of interference. Despite the topic's importance, the government keeps carrying on as though the provinces and Quebec do not exist. The committee's recommendations form the basis for a simple plan allowing the federal government to interfere in the area of labour while completely disregarding the existence of the agreements already signed between Quebec and Ottawa on labour training and revealing the Liberal Party of Canada's contempt for all of Quebec's labour market partners. A quick glance at the table of contents shows that the vast majority of the headings concern matters under Quebec's jurisdiction. For example, there are headings such as “Skills Mismatch, Education and Training” and “Vocational, Technical and Skilled Trades Pathways”. I could go on reading from the table of contents.

Outside Quebec, the federal government may play a major role in employment and workforce training, but not in Quebec. Clearly, the committee members knew how to play the game. They added “in collaboration with provinces and territories”, but this is a clear indication that the federal government wants to interfere in their jurisdictions. This wording is not a magic bullet that will protect Quebec from federal interference every time it could happen. It is imperative that the government introduce asymmetry for Quebec in order to comply with the Canada-Quebec agreement on workforce development and Quebec's legislative authority. Let us not forget that Quebec has jurisdiction over workforce development and carries out this role in close collaboration with labour market partners within the Commission des partenaires du marché du travail. Quebec tailors its approach, as it does in many other areas, by collaborating with the community.

The most striking example in this report can be found in this paragraph on page 42:

On youth welfare, the committee heard that provincial responsibility for group homes and youth in care intersects with federal interests in long-term social outcomes.

That is obvious, hence the idea of truly collaborating, government to government, each within its respective areas of jurisdiction.

I will now address the consequences of immigration. In the House, the Conservative leader once claimed that foreign workers were coming to take jobs away from young people. This only shows that he is mixing everything up and that the issue is much more complex than that. It is true that temporary immigration has an effect on the unemployment rate, but in light of the data, this statement must be qualified.

For example, according to the Desjardins study, international students are more likely to be competing with young people for jobs. The study also notes that the restrictions on international students that were lifted at the end of the pandemic—as members may recall, the government had eliminated the hourly work limits for international students—may have contributed to the rise in youth unemployment. This interpretation is supported by studies done by CIBC and the Institut du Québec. It is the influx of foreign workers with degrees that is believed to have contributed to the increase in available labour. Temporary foreign workers have less of an impact because these hires are subject to labour market impact assessments.

Once again, I urge members to be cautious. After consulting with post-secondary institutions, I can say that these international students are not all here to steal jobs. They are also students who are important, particularly for the vitality of CEGEPs and universities in the regions. Once again, we need to qualify our statements. Of course immigration is far from being the only cause. It is a complex, multi-faceted issue, and it has more than a single cause. These same studies also state that the use of AI might be another factor that is contributing to rising youth unemployment in particular. In fact, this is mentioned in the report, in recommendation 6.

Studies have also found that policies aimed at addressing demographic decline should help reduce youth unemployment, while noting that youth unemployment is particularly sensitive to overall economic conditions. That explains why the youth unemployment rate is still high right now despite the policies currently in place. The tariff war with the United States has exacerbated Canada's economic situation and increased unemployment. This is also identified as one of the causes in the report. Take the forestry sector, for example. Quebec needs support measures other than loans. Meanwhile, the Prime Minister and the Premier of Ontario announced a new action plan to protect workers from tariffs and strengthen Ontario industries. They announced billions of dollars for Ontario, but there was nothing for the forestry sector. Then again, that comes as no surprise. It has always been that way.

What we actually need to do is address low wages and inflation, because socio-economic factors also contribute to youth unemployment. More specifically, with respect to education, in the 2026 spring budget update, the government promised funding for team Canada strong, but Quebec has yet to receive that money, which would help create more training opportunities in the skilled trades.

I will digress for a moment because this echoes Bill C‑266, a bill that aligns with Ottawa's traditional centralizing approach and conflicts with Quebec's desire to maintain control over its own vocational training and labour market. The bill creates a federal framework in an area that falls under provincial jurisdiction, namely training, certification and labour market regulation. This opens the door to more permanent encroachment, despite the preamble's dubious claim about respecting jurisdiction. By requiring the minister to compile a complete list of skilled trades across Canada and map equivalencies, Ottawa is essentially assuming the role of the national authority on trades. This is no mere voluntary coordination role. It positions the federal government as the arbiter of provincial standards.

Under the guise of harmonization and reducing regulatory duplication, the federal government is giving itself a tool to put pressure on provinces that maintain higher requirements. This will jeopardize the standards of quality, safety and working conditions that have been established by Quebec institutions such as the Commission de la construction du Québec, or CCQ, Emploi-Québec and sector-specific organizations. The bill offers no explicit guarantee that provincial standards will take precedence in the event of a conflict between a national framework and Quebec's professional qualification regime. This leaves the door wide open for a standards downgrade that lowers Quebec's requirements to the level of a potential minimum Canadian standard.

Along with Bill C‑5 and the rhetoric about one Canadian economy, Bill C‑266 is part of a strong trend of Ottawa exploiting the argument of internal free trade and labour shortages to centralize power over standards, qualifications and mobility, at the expense of the autonomy of Quebec and the provinces. The Liberal government subscribes to this vision. In the 2026 spring economic update, it stated that it wanted to launch an initiative called “Team Canada Strong” to recruit, train and hire 80,000 to 100,000 new Red Seal skilled trades workers by 2030-31, with the goal of providing young Canadians with paid pathways to jobs in housing construction, major infrastructure and defence projects at speed and scale. The 2026 spring economic update proposed providing $2 billion over five years, starting in 2026-27, and $262 million a year ongoing.

In committee, during the study of these bills, we were told that the funding has yet to be distributed. The Government of Quebec, notably through its former minister of employment and labour, denounced these intrusions at the time and reminded the federal government that workforce training falls under provincial jurisdiction and that Quebec already had its own programs. It should be noted that, in Canada, credential recognition is primarily the responsibility of the provinces and territories, which have jurisdiction over regulating professions and trades and issuing licences to practise. Approximately 20% of jobs are in regulated professions or trades, where the use of a professional title and the performance of certain activities are restricted to individuals who hold a licence or certificate of qualification. In practical terms, more than 400 regulatory bodies, professional orders, colleges and apprenticeship authorities, as well as more than 200 post-secondary institutions, apply these rules and assess credentials and skills.

I could draw a lot of parallels between the bill and the report that we are examining in the House this evening. However, I will now wrap up this long tangent on Bill C-266, which I have heard a lot about lately, by saying that we just heard from witnesses and that we will discuss it further and submit a report.

I will now talk about work-life-study balance. That is also an important issue when it comes to youth employment. We need to give this some serious thought. Debt has an impact on youth employment, as do discrimination against minorities, indigenous peoples and women and the lack of protection and recognition for non-standard jobs. Inflation and low wages also have an impact. Finally, economic uncertainty can negatively affect hiring or result in layoffs for low-income workers. In fact, the government addresses that last point in its response:

The Government of Canada understands that weak productivity growth, high operating costs, and taxation can reduce firms' ability to invest, expand, and create jobs. As a result, businesses may be less likely to hire and create new opportunities, particularly in sectors such as manufacturing and natural resources.

Before concluding my remarks, I would like to take a few minutes to discuss the report and the study in general. While they are obviously relevant, the lack of political will to acknowledge Quebec's asymmetry prevents us from finding lasting solutions to many aspects of the problem.

The federal government bears its share of responsibility and acknowledges this: economic uncertainty, inflation, a housing shortage, and reduced transfers, among other issues. However, unless and until the Government of Canada sits down in good faith with its counterparts in Quebec and the provinces to discuss joint solutions within each of their jurisdictions, the situation is likely to remain at a standstill.

I would like to make one final point. We will at least try to identify some solutions. Let us remember that, tonight, we are talking about a generation that works hard, studies hard and wants to contribute to society, yet is increasingly struggling to carve out a place in today's economy.

Let us also bear in mind that the Standing Committee on Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities' report on youth employment is troubling. The report notes that the youth unemployment rate reached an average of 14% in 2025, its highest level in more than a decade, excluding the pandemic.

The committee also heard that full-time students are facing particularly difficult circumstances and that summer jobs are becoming increasingly scarce. I would like to take this opportunity to remind employers that the application period for the Canada summer jobs program opens today and runs until December 3. I encourage employers to take advantage of this program, which could help young people get some work experience for the first time. This program could help them.

Every year, we are told that the amounts could be increased because this program is popular with both young people and employers. This is a concrete example of an area where the federal government could take action. It could also enhance the program a little. It has already done so, but it could do more to recognize the difficult employment situation young people are facing. Once again, I will leave that aside for now and encourage employers to apply for this program.

Meanwhile, as we know, the cost of living is skyrocketing. Young people are facing unaffordable rent, unstable jobs, underpaid internships, difficulty accessing EI, and financial pressures that are delaying their life plans.

The Bloc Québécois believes that this situation must be taken seriously. First of all, we believe that the realities of Quebec and the regions must be recognized. The report clearly shows that realities vary greatly from province to province and even from region to region. In Quebec, some regions are near full employment while others, such as the Gaspé Peninsula and the Magdalen Islands, have much higher youth unemployment rates.

That is why Ottawa's one-size-fits-all solutions do not work. Instead, the Bloc Québécois is calling for increased transfers and greater flexibility for Quebec, measures tailored to regional realities, more support for Quebec's small and medium-sized businesses, and targeted investments in sectors that create high-quality jobs. We also believe that young workers in non-standard and seasonal employment must be protected.

The report points out that many young people fall into the EI spring gap and that the current criteria no longer reflect the reality of modern jobs. That is yet another reason why the Bloc Québécois is reintroducing a bill to overhaul EI and modernize it so it aligns with the current labour market. That is coming soon.

That is why the Bloc Québécois is pushing for comprehensive EI reform to incorporate a more accessible universal eligibility threshold and better protection for part-time, seasonal workers and workers with multiple jobs. The real problem is that the federal government has failed to properly plan for housing, infrastructure, economic integration and regional labour needs.

Lastly, the Bloc Québécois believes that young people deserve the opportunity to study, find suitable housing, work and build a decent future. These days, too many young people feel like they are working hard without really getting ahead.

We have a collective responsibility to restore their faith in the future.

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October 27th, 2026 / 6:40 p.m.

Conservative

Gérard Deltell Conservative Louis-Saint-Laurent—Akiawenhrahk, QC

Mr. Speaker, my colleague touched on several issues in her speech. I would like to begin by thanking her for highlighting the fact that the application period for summer jobs is now under way for businesses and organizations seeking to recruit students. The deadline for submitting applications is a month away. People can go to their federal constituency office, find their MP and take the necessary steps to secure the jobs. Of course, all of this must be carefully balanced.

My question is this: My colleague was elected, if I am not mistaken, in 2019 and has been serving in this House ever since. She has therefore had the opportunity to observe how, over the years, the government has increasingly encroached on provincial areas of responsibility. There may have been a change 18 months ago, but the more things change, the more they stay the same.

Could she explain to the House the direct impact of a federal government that does not interfere in these matters, specifically on youth employment?

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6:40 p.m.

Bloc

Andréanne Larouche Bloc Shefford, QC

Mr. Speaker, one thing is certain. When it comes to areas of jurisdiction, they are the ones with the resources. They created their own systems to be able to give young people training that reflects the needs of Quebec and its regions. It is all in the name: “area of jurisdiction”. When the federal government tries to meddle in an area that does not belong to it, like workforce training, employment or labour, we run the risk of ending up with redundancies, and once again, we run the risk of being much more inefficient. That is why we often demand transfer payments.

In this case, witnesses told the committee that the transfer that Quebec should have received would have improved the offering of unique programs in Quebec. In terms of skills training, we also heard that Quebec has something unique to offer when it comes to skilled trades.

I could go on about this, but I think I will move on to the next question.

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6:40 p.m.

Liberal

Natilien Joseph Liberal Longueuil—Saint-Hubert, QC

Mr. Speaker, I am also from Quebec, and I also serve on the Standing Committee on Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities with my colleague, who, I have to admit, does an outstanding job.

I have never witnessed the federal government attempting to interfere in matters that fall under Quebec's jurisdiction.

I would like to ask my colleague whether she thinks she is protecting Quebec's jurisdictions by voting against everything here in Ottawa. I think that Quebeckers deserve better than political games. Every time there is a vote on something that benefits Quebec, they vote against it.

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6:40 p.m.

Bloc

Andréanne Larouche Bloc Shefford, QC

Mr. Speaker, I know my colleague is from Quebec, but I am wondering whether he is hearing the same testimony as me in committee.

For example, during the study on Bill C-266, witnesses from Quebec had to explain, even to the Liberal members, how the system works and why trying to use a one-size-fits-all approach to employment and labour to speed up so-called national projects shows a lack of respect for Quebec's unique vocational training system, for example.

I am not making this up. Witnesses from Quebec told us that in committee. It is always like this. We are talking about this subject this evening, but I am wondering where he is when witnesses from Quebec appear in committee.

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6:45 p.m.

Bloc

Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe Bloc Lac-Saint-Jean, QC

Mr. Speaker, we are learning all kinds of things on this wonderful evening. The member for Longueuil—Saint-Hubert says that he has never seen the federal government interfere in Quebec's jurisdictions. That is actually quite amazing. We will be sending him loads of documentation. He can dive in and get an understanding of what this is all about.

Earlier, I asked my colleague, the member for Winnipeg North, a question. He is a pretty regular participant in debates in the House. He has quite a few hours under his belt, I think. He has been participating in these debates for years, and he apparently knows the Constitution off by heart. I asked him twice whether labour mobility was a federal or a provincial responsibility. Both times, he could not give me an answer. For a man who is intelligent, who understands and knows the Canadian Constitution and the agreements between Quebec and the federal government, it is rather surprising that he could not answer such a question. This raises some questions.

I would like to ask my colleague what planet the Liberals are living on, considering that they do not know the various jurisdictions set out in their own Constitution.

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6:45 p.m.

Bloc

Andréanne Larouche Bloc Shefford, QC

Mr. Speaker, Halloween is coming up, and I think I just figured out what to go as. I am going to dress up as a unicorn, because I am getting the impression this evening that the Liberals are inhabiting a fantasy land. The Constitution appears to pose no problem whatsoever. Everything is fuzzy; boundaries melt away.

Nevertheless, it is clear that workforce training, employment and labour fall under the jurisdiction of Quebec and the provinces. That is the answer. I have worked in both Parliament and the National Assembly. I was not a member of the National Assembly, just an assistant, but it was enough for me to be clear on who does what. All I have to do is read the Constitution to know that.

When the member for Longueuil—Saint-Hubert told me that he has never seen any attempt to interfere, I knew exactly what my Halloween costume would be: I am going to dress up as a unicorn.

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6:45 p.m.

Conservative

Tamara Kronis Conservative Nanaimo—Ladysmith, BC

Mr. Speaker, my colleague's speech was very interesting. I always learn something new about Quebec when she speaks. I want to continue to learn more about the communities she represents. I know she has always wanted to learn more about the communities I represent.

My question may be simple, but it is sincere. After graduation, many young people in our communities struggle to find their first job. How can the federal government help them?

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6:45 p.m.

Bloc

Andréanne Larouche Bloc Shefford, QC

Mr. Speaker, I thank my colleague, with whom I always enjoy speaking. We worked together again today in committee. I congratulate her on her French.

In any case, trying to impose a one-size-fits-all approach and interfere with the training already provided in Quebec—with something that is already being done—is certainly not the way to help young people find jobs. At the federal level, there may be programs to help them gain their first work experience. One example is the Canada summer jobs program. However, I have also discussed many other work-related measures to help young people cope with the cost of living and find housing. These are areas of jurisdiction for Quebec that could help them relocate to where jobs are available within their province.

The government has allowed the economic situation to deteriorate. Maybe one way to help young people would be working to resolve this tariff crisis, because it creates uncertainty for businesses, which ultimately may have to let people go. In this climate of uncertainty, young people are often the first to be laid off. We have a Prime Minister who has adopted an “elbows up” attitude and who promised to resolve the situation. Clearly, if there were an agreement in place and less economic uncertainty, there would likely be far more jobs for young people.

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6:50 p.m.

Marc-Aurèle-Fortin Québec

Liberal

Carlos Leitão LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Industry

Mr. Speaker, the issue of youth unemployment and how difficult it is for many young people to get that first job and join the workforce is very important. We find ourselves in a very unfortunate situation with the tariffs, but I would point out that this was initiated by our neighbours. We would love to discuss it, but someone needs to be on the other side of the table. They do not seem to be ready, despite what they say in public.

As for the federal government's role in workforce training, the federal government has a number of programs. In Quebec, we are aware of Quebec's unique circumstances, but I think we can work together to get there, especially since we provide funding to companies in the aerospace industry, for example, which offers training programs. We believe that is an example of how we can work together.

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6:50 p.m.

Bloc

Andréanne Larouche Bloc Shefford, QC

Mr. Speaker, it is great to help businesses, but in my speech, I mentioned something the federal government could do. I also discussed other solutions in my response to my colleague.

I was talking about assistance for small and medium-sized businesses during these troubled times. That could help them stay in business, which would automatically help young people. Also, instead of interfering in employment and labour, which is not its jurisdiction, the federal government could deal with employment insurance. It was mentioned as part of the solution. We also discussed it in committee during the debate on employment and youth.

We need to reform and modernize EI with criteria that will allow young people to qualify more quickly if they lose their jobs, so they can then return to work. That is something that falls under federal jurisdiction. Let us focus on what we can do.

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6:50 p.m.

Conservative

Tamara Kronis Conservative Nanaimo—Ladysmith, BC

Mr. Speaker, I will be splitting my time this evening.

This evening, we are continuing the discussion on the jobs crisis facing our youth. Young people continue to experience Canada as a place where it is hard to find a good job and even harder to build a good life where they can have the financial security enjoyed by their parents and grandparents. Getting a first employer to take a chance on them can be very difficult.

We argue monthly in the House about the latest job numbers, but there is no question that youth unemployment is up and is in fact at its highest point in more than 25 years, excluding the pandemic. We also have a 29-year low in youth workforce participation. Young people are facing a tough labour market at a time when they have never needed more income to afford a home, a family and a good life.

I attended the Vancouver Island Economic Alliance's summit last week. The 2026 economic update was so well done but so discouraging. It estimates that labour force participation among island youth aged 15 to 25 fell from 65% in 2021 to 62% in 2026. VIEA also reports that the share of islanders aged 15 to 25 fell by about 4% between 2016 and 2024, while the share over 65 grew by about the same amount. Future growth will depend on generating more value per worker through higher productivity.

Those figures cannot tell us what any individual young person is doing. There was an excellent panel on youth employment during the VIEA state of the island economic summit in Nanaimo last week, and at it, the three panellists did their absolute best to make light of the situation. One quipped, “Who said being a stay-at-home 25-year-old isn't a career?” Another pointed out that it is pretty hard not to take every chance possible to engage in the workforce, given the cost of everything. The third panellist came to Canada from a country that he described as unsafe and impoverished and noticed that these days, “Canada sometimes feels like home.”

When I listened to these young people trying to make light of their situation, it really impacted me, because these days, when I ask young people what they want to do for a career, an answer I now get frequently is “whatever makes the most money”. Young workers tell me that they cannot wait for an ideal job or a stable schedule. They need paid work now because they need it to cover rent. They need it to cover transportation costs to get to work, and they need to do all of that before they figure out how to eat.

This morning at committee, one of our local food bank people came to talk to committee about the increase in food bank use in our region. It is so distressing to hear of the increase in the number of young people needing to use food banks. It is a direct result of how difficult it is to find the kind of work that will pay for rent and transportation and still leave enough for food.

The Vancouver Island Real Estate Board reported a benchmark price of $798,400 for a single-family home in Nanaimo in September 2026, requiring a household income in the $165,000 to $200,000 range for it to be affordable. For most young people, that number is so high that it is virtually meaningless. The average rent for a studio apartment in Nanaimo as of October 26 is between $1,500 and $1,700. Average rent for a basement apartment in Ladysmith is running over $1,350 a month. That rent is considered affordable at a salary range between about $55,000 and $68,000 a year. That is hardly an entry-level job these days.

Conservatives are trying to be constructive. To that end, we proposed the Conservative youth jobs plan, which includes a recommendation to build homes where the training and jobs are. Workers need housing near jobs, especially given the high transportation and fuel costs, and we need to make sure that those homes are affordable.

I am pleased to see that the report we are discussing here today enshrines several of the concepts in our Conservative job plan in its formal recommendations, recognizing the need for stable funding for student workplace programs and more funded placements for young people facing financial barriers or living in regions with high youth unemployment. Funded placements can help employers assess a new worker and also let that new worker test whether a career is right for them.

The report also recommends reducing tax and regulatory barriers to job creation and recognizing work across sectors, including in natural resources and manufacturing. VIEA's economic update counts about 40,000 people employed in construction and about 18,000 in value-added manufacturing on the island. These are employment counts, not vacancies. What they show, though, is why training should connect to industries already employing people in our region. We call on the government to reduce both taxes and red tape to allow for productivity growth, which we believe will in turn help with youth unemployment.

We need a climate where there is opportunity for people to start and grow a business, one that includes paid entry-level trades placements for young people, including those having trouble getting their first opportunity. We should measure whether the government's announcements in this area lead to actual apprenticeships or whether they lead to ghost jobs, false opportunities and dead ends.

The government's own data validates these fears. Last spring's economic update reported that more than 100,000 new apprentices registered in 2024, but only about 34,000 completed an apprenticeship. These are different cohorts, but the numbers highlight the need for registration targets to be matched with completion and employment results so that we can know whether these programs are effective. The committee recommends judging training programs by their effectiveness and shifting money away from programs that are not preparing young people for work. This would help Parliament see whether participants finish training and move into jobs, if the report is adopted and turned into real accountability.

An apprentice may have to leave paid work for blocks of classroom training, to care for a relative or for other reasons. We need to recognize the dignity and value of all work and a firm respect for all sectors of the economy. The report recommends reviewing income support and adapting employment insurance to fit the way that many young people work today, including when they have to piece together shifts across employers or rely on seasonal work. That would fit Vancouver Island very well, where tourism and construction follow the seasons. Someone trying to finish an apprenticeship should be able to manage the weeks when the paycheques stop.

The report also asks the government to consider youth employment opportunities when setting immigration levels, with attention to entry-level openings and affordability. Why we need to legislate that the government needs to do workplace planning is beyond me, but here we are.

Young people are as diverse as Canada. The 15-to-24 age group includes full-time students looking for summer work and young people who have left school and need a full-time job. A program that works for one will not necessarily work for another, which is why we need a variety of programs and a thoughtful approach to this work. In addition, young people should get the chance to help shape these employment programs through meaningful consultations, and the results should be reported both by region and by the circumstances that affect access to that work.

This is an issue that needs continuous monitoring. Parliament should receive regular reports on the share of young participants who complete training and remain employed in their field a year later. Parliament should pay attention to rates of youth unemployment, and we should be speaking about this topic far more in the House. That would show our youth whether the government's trade target is becoming a real route into work. That is what we need at this time. We owe it to youth in Nanaimo—Ladysmith and across Canada to ensure that training can lead to a job that makes it possible to stay in our communities and that makes it possible to build a life that can include a home, a family and all of the opportunities we had.

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Liberal

Carlos Leitão LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Industry

Mr. Speaker, my colleague had a lot of very interesting ideas. I am not a member of that committee, so I did not follow its work, but clearly some good ideas have come from that work.

Youth unemployment is indeed a very serious problem, and not just in Canada. We just have to listen to the news on TVs or on our computers these days to see that it is worldwide. Canada has special circumstances in that we live in a very large and very diverse country, and young people are having great difficulty entering the labour force. In that respect, it is upon us to continue talking about that as much and as often as we can and to try to correct the skills mismatch—

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The Assistant Deputy Speaker John Nater

I have to give time to the member to respond.

The hon. member for Nanaimo—Ladysmith.

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Conservative

Tamara Kronis Conservative Nanaimo—Ladysmith, BC

Mr. Speaker, I can see from the length of my hon. colleague's question that this is a topic he is genuinely interested in. I am pleased to see someone from the government taking this topic seriously. I would urge him to take to his colleagues the ideas that he has expressed, because our youth need the kind of support that the Conservatives are offering through the jobs plan that they are proposing. They need it as soon as possible.

I would be happy to work with the member anytime to see our proposals and plans implemented into policies that will help youth in my communities and across Canada.