House of Commons Hansard #98 of the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was workers.

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Procedure and House Affairs Members present reports from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs concerning committee membership and election candidate criteria, while debating proposed measures regarding "longest ballot" organizations and nomination signature limits. 700 words.

Petitions

Opposition Motion—Tariff-free Auto Pact Conservative MP Kyle Seeback moves a motion criticizing the Liberal government’s handling of the auto industry, citing declining production levels and job losses. Conservatives propose a 'tariff-free auto pact' to double production via GST exemptions and a one-for-one sales rule. Liberals oppose the motion, arguing the plan is outdated and ignores current global trade realities. Meanwhile, the Bloc Québécois rejects it, highlighting concerns regarding climate goals and regional interests. 47900 words, 6 hours in 2 segments: 1 2.

Statements by Members

Question Period

The Conservatives condemn the government’s immigration mismanagement, citing an Auditor General report on student permit fraud and calling to fire three ministers. They highlight declining auto production and aluminum tariffs while proposing a tariff-free auto pact. Finally, they criticize the failing pay system and its backlog of transactions.
The Liberals emphasize restoring integrity to immigration by reducing student visas and temporary resident numbers. They defend their auto strategy and Northern investments while addressing aluminum tariffs. Additionally, they focus on reducing pay backlogs, implementing lawful access measures for police, and protecting the judicial appointment process.
The Bloc defends Quebec’s state secularism law, demanding the government withdraw its arguments at the Supreme Court. They reject federal authority and call for provincial control over judicial appointments to end partisan selections.
The NDP condemns the government for cutting funding for accessible housing for wheelchair users. They also call for an end to arms exports to ensure Canada is not complicit in the civilian killings in the Middle East.

Supplementary Estimates (C), 2025-26 First reading of Bill C-23. The bill appropriates specified sums for federal public administration for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2026, advancing through the House of Commons for final approval on division. .

Interim Supply Members move and carry a motion on division to grant interim supply totalling $86.4 billion to fund government operations until March 31, 2027, as part of the budgetary process for the upcoming fiscal year. 600 words.

Interim Supply First reading of Bill C-24. The bill receives first, second, and third reading in the House of Commons, is reviewed clause-by-clause as a committee of the whole, and is ultimately passed on division for federal public administration funding. .

Amendments to Bill C-8 Laila Goodridge argues against the government’s challenge to amendments made by the Standing Committee on Public Safety regarding Bill C-8, asserting that the committee’s changes are procedurally sound and within the bill's scope. 1300 words, 10 minutes.

Respecting Families of Murdered and Brutalized Persons Act Second reading of Bill C-235. The bill increases, at a judge's discretion, parole ineligibility periods to 40 years for offenders convicted of abduction, sexual assault, and murder. Supporters, primarily Conservatives, argue it prevents the retraumatization of victims' families. The Bloc Québécois opposes the measure, citing constitutional concerns regarding Supreme Court rulings on cumulative sentencing and potential wasted parliamentary resources, but the motion passes and proceeds to committee. 4200 words, 30 minutes.

Adjournment Debates

Employment data and economic performance Garnett Genuis criticizes the government for significant job losses, particularly among youth, while dismissing ministerial excuses as inaccurate or logically inconsistent. Leslie Church defends the government's economic record, citing strong foreign direct investment projections and new training investments under Budget 2025 to support workers impacted by trade disruptions.
Economic performance and cost of living Kevin Waugh criticizes the government for Canada's shrinking economy, high inflation, and job losses, arguing that families need jobs rather than handouts. Leslie Church defends the administration's economic plan, citing new grocery benefits and targeted funding to support affordability, while blaming trade wars for recent economic challenges.
Benefits delivery modernization costs Sébastien Lemire criticizes significant cost overruns in the government's Cúram-based benefits delivery system, demanding an independent inquiry. Leslie Church defends the project as necessary to modernize outdated infrastructure, stating that the migration of OAS was completed under budget and is essential for reliable, secure service delivery to millions.
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Opposition Motion—Tariff-Free Auto PactBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON

Mr. Speaker, the member reminds us that when I was finance minister, we bailed out and supported the auto industry in Windsor. If it were not for Ontario's participation, against the wishes of the Conservatives, they would have faltered. We stood by the Canadian auto workers, we stood by the industry and we safeguarded those jobs and those companies. We will continue to do so.

Foreign direct investment was at its peak when I was there to try to attract that investment. The members opposite worked against those auto workers, and they continue to do so now with a plan that does not make any sense for the benefit of those workers,

Opposition Motion—Tariff-Free Auto PactBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:55 p.m.

Winnipeg North Manitoba

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the member's comments because it has been pointed out that the core of the Tory plan, the Conservative plan, is to go back to the sixties. That was when we had American Motors, Chrysler, GM and Ford. Today, the biggest manufacturers of cars here in Canada are actually Honda and Toyota. If it were up to the Conservative Party, they would not exist in Canada today.

I am wondering if my friend could just provide his thoughts on how important it is that we modernize and we look at ways we can grow our industry, which does not necessarily mean going back to the 1960s.

Opposition Motion—Tariff-Free Auto PactBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON

Mr. Speaker, it is important that Canada stays at the forefront of industry and innovation. It is important that we continue to attract investment because we are trusted partners. It is important that we look at the auto sector in a broader scope. It is important that we look to the future of auto. We do not pick winners and losers. They are picking losers. We need to ensure that those competitors who are attracted to Canada recognize that we are an opportunity to provide services to the rest of the world. Canada is broadening its reach with other trading partners because of that very fact. The auto sector will thrive and succeed if we work collaboratively for their benefit and if we look and point to the issues that will prevent and provide future benefit in the long term, not yesterday's viewpoint.

Opposition Motion—Tariff-Free Auto PactBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:55 p.m.

Bloc

Mario Simard Bloc Jonquière, QC

Mr. Speaker, conversations about the auto industry are a bit triggering in Quebec. I would like to remind my colleague about what happened during the 2008 financial crisis. The federal government paid out $10 billion, and we know that about $6 billion of that became a direct subsidy to the auto industry. I would like my colleague to comment further on that.

Earlier, I talked about the double standard. The Conservatives want to talk about industrial sectors in the rest of Canada, such as the oil and auto sectors, but they do not want to talk about sectors that are concentrated in Quebec, such as aluminum and softwood lumber, which are currently the most-tariffed sectors.

Does my colleague agree that there is a double standard when it comes to Quebec's economic sectors?

Opposition Motion—Tariff-Free Auto PactBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

Charles Sousa Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON

Mr. Speaker, I agree that every sector of our economy from coast to coast to coast matters. Canada united and supporting every industry throughout the country is important, which includes, of course, those very same companies in Quebec. When the auto sector took a dive in 2008, the Ontario government and the federal government at the time stepped in to provide that support. Had it not been for that, the rest of the country would have faltered too. We needed to support the industry, just as we need to support aluminum, forestry, aerospace and industries all across, including oil and gas, where we are one of the largest. We will continue to do so.

In fact, one of the things I was trying to do at the time was work with every province with a capital co-operative securities regulatory system to enable all those companies to compete more effectively without the pressures of other parts of Canada's interference. We need to work collaboratively. We support every sector, Quebec included.

Opposition Motion—Tariff-Free Auto PactBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:55 p.m.

Battle River—Crowfoot Alberta

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre ConservativeLeader of the Opposition

Mr. Speaker, I am happy to be back home here in Canada. I just got back from touring some of the great U.S. states and metropolises where our American partners buy our goods and services and where we trade for the benefit of both our peoples.

Before I left, I gave a speech in Toronto in which I laid out a detailed plan for restoring tariff-free free trade with our largest international market. My goal is one shared by all Conservatives: a Canada that is affordable and strong, where we are the master of our own house.

I have to say it is good to be home after a 12-day journey across the United States, visiting some of the great metropolises and states south of the border, pitching Canada, fighting for tariff-free trade, arguing on behalf of our workers and restoring our long-standing partnership with our greatest trade partner.

That journey took me to Detroit, where I championed auto workers, coming back with a clear proposal for a tariff-free auto pact. Then it was on to Houston, where I championed our energy sector. Then I went on to meet with Governor Abbott in the great capital of Austin, where I found a wonderful friend of Canada who wants to buy even more of our energy if we can get it out of the ground and down. Of course, I was very pleased to speak to Americans to fight for tariff-free trade and to defend Canadian sovereignty on the biggest podcast in the world with the great Joe Rogan. Then, of course, it was on to New York, where I championed our overall economy with some of the greatest leaders in finance.

In all of those places, I am happy to report that I found friends among Americans, people who want to reopen trade across tariff-free borders along the longest undefended border in the history of the world. I found that the American people love Canada and know that trade with us is in their national interest. They understand that buying Canadian goods lowers Americans' cost of living and feeds their supply chains. It adds paycheques to their pockets while enriching us both.

They understand that Canada has leverage, like being the second-biggest customer to the United States, having 10 of the 12 NATO-defined national defence critical minerals and having the biggest land mass, biggest seas and biggest airspace in the entire hemisphere, all essential to American security. Americans understand that it is in our interest as a continent for our two separate countries, while they maintain their sovereignty, to work collaboratively to make us both richer, stronger and safer.

I shall say that I kept the Prime Minister well informed of all these developments while I was abroad. I look forward to meeting with him to report on my findings, to compare notes and to offer recommendations on how Canada can become stronger at home and more affordable at home, so that we have the leverage abroad to achieve tariff-free trade with our American partners. Though I made a point of not criticizing the Prime Minister on foreign soil, I return here where it is precisely my constitutional obligation to do just that, not out of any partisan interest but out of an interest in pursuing the truth.

Now, after a year of the Prime Minister's being in office on the promise that he would negotiate a win with the United States, it is a good time to take an inventory of where we are. A year into the Liberal Prime Minister's term, after he won on his famous promise to negotiate a win, much has been said but not much has been done. There have been many fine speeches and signing ceremonies of so-called MOUs, which are, in effect, unenforceable documents that commit bureaucrats to form committees and hold international meetings to discuss future plans that may or may not one day be materialized. There have been handshakes and press conferences, announcements of grand goals and of things that will happen somewhere, someplace down the road, but nothing tangible.

As Shakespeare said, “All the world's a stage”, and the Prime Minister has been great at the stagecraft, but what about the statecraft? He promised he would give us the fastest-growing economy in the G7. We now have the only shrinking economy in the G7. He promised affordable food. We have the most food inflation in the G7. He promised that we would have a solid economy. We now have the worst housing costs and the highest household debt in the G7, and the second-highest unemployment in that group. He said he would negotiate a win with the President. Here we are today, a year later, with no win and no deal. Tariffs on aluminum and steel have doubled, and on Canadian lumber they have tripled.

He promised that he would build projects with record speed, yet his Major Projects Office, which the House rushed into existence in five days back in June because the Prime Minister said it was an emergency, has still not approved a single project of any kind almost a year later. Not a single pipeline has been approved. When it comes to building homes, he promised he would double homebuilding. His own housing agency projects that will drop by 15%. There has been no serious tax reform other than to rename the carbon tax to the so-called clean fuel standard, which applies to more goods and will rise to the same level. Of course, there remain interprovincial trade barriers, despite the fact the Prime Minister promised that we would have one unified Canadian economy by Canada Day of last year.

Speaking of free trade, he has not concluded a single free trade agreement since taking office, trying only to take credit for a small deal that his predecessor, Justin Trudeau, signed with Indonesia, an agreement that will amount to about three hours of Canada's GDP.

It has now been a year since this Liberal Prime Minister took office. Reality has collided with illusion. The deficit has doubled, and our economy is the only one in the G7 to have contracted. We have the worst food inflation, the highest housing costs, the worst household debt and the second-worst unemployment rate in the G7, plus a 15% decline in housing construction. Not a single pipeline has been approved. No projects have been approved by his new office, which wields exceptional and unprecedented powers. Despite his promise to negotiate a victory and reach an agreement by July 21, 2025, there is still no victory or agreement, and U.S. tariffs have doubled on Canadian products and tripled on softwood lumber.

For all the illusions about the Prime Minister's negotiating skills and statecraft, what really do we have to show a year after? What we are increasingly seeing is that American tariffs have doubled on Canadian steel and aluminum and tripled on Canadian lumber since the Prime Minister promised he would get rid of them. Credentials are not competence. Stagecraft is not statecraft. Illusions are not reality.

Speaking of trade with the United States, Canadians know a lot more about my approach than they do about the Prime Minister's. I want everyone to stop and think about this for a second. I laid out a very detailed plan of both my demands, eliminating all tariffs on Canadian goods, and the leverage I would use to get those demands. I would like to give the House of Commons a pop quiz. What do we really know about the Prime Minister's plan to get tariffs lifted with the U.S.? What do we really know? We know nothing. Is he even determined to get those tariffs lifted? In fact, Liberal ministers have suggested it might now be impossible to do that. Is it still his negotiating bottom line to have those tariffs removed, and if so, what is he planning to offer in exchange for getting them lifted? We do not know.

Does his proposed rupture with the U.S. mean he does not want a renewed CUSMA? We do not know. If he does intend to renew CUSMA, does he intend to try to get it renewed exactly as it is, with small changes, or a complete overhaul? Has anybody heard him answer that question? I am not aware of him telling anyone that. When was the last serious negotiation? We know the Mexicans are negotiating. They are at the table. Has he or anyone in his cabinet actually been at the negotiating table in the last four months?

I do not mean friendly handshakes, introductions and an exchange of jokes and pleasantries with the minister responsible for Canada-U.S. affairs, who is a man with a great, gregarious personality indeed. I mean actual negotiations. Are they even happening? Has anyone in the press actually asked the Prime Minister if we are even negotiating, given that we are literally days away from the renewal date of our single biggest trade agreement? Nobody knows. He said, “Who cares?”

Indeed, I think Canadians care.

Does he accept that U.S. tariffs on aluminum, steel, autos and lumber are permanent? We do not know. We have no idea when the talks will start or when they will end. We have heard him use some very interesting rhetoric, colourful rhetoric, such as that he wants to have a rupture with our single biggest customer, on whom 2.3 million Canadian jobs depend. If he is going to rupture 2.3 million jobs, how is he going to replace them? How will those workers pay their bills? How will we replace those jobs?

These are the types of questions that slogans like “rupture”, “elbows up” and “Canada strong” do not answer. While the Prime Minister gives wonderful speeches that make for very interesting listening, and we can admire him as a wordsmith, those speeches do not pay mortgages or put food on the table for 2.3 million people.

Meanwhile, the Prime Minister cannot seem to make up his mind about how things are going. On the one hand, he says the reason we have the only shrinking economy in the G7 is that the tariffs are so bad. On the other, he says there is no need to rush into solving this problem, because the deal is so good. Which is it? He cannot, on the one hand, say that he has gotten us an excellent deal on tariffs and then, on the other, say that the tariffs are so horrendous that it is the very reason why we have the worst economy in the G7. It cannot be both. He has to make up his mind.

Meanwhile, his ministers make patently ridiculous excuses about foreign matters to defend their domestic failures, like the housing minister claiming that the war in Iran had caused housing costs to double over the last decade. I will give members a spoiler alert. We do not import houses or land from Iran. We never have. The housing bubble inflated well before this war even started, which makes all of us wonder if the Liberal Prime Minister and his government are simply using these foreign problems as excuses for his very real domestic failures, given that everything was bad under his predecessor, Justin Trudeau, and has gotten much worse since he became Prime Minister, promising to fix it all.

We all have to ask: How long will the Prime Minister use the trade dispute and other foreign matters as a convenient all-purpose excuse for causing inflation, debt and joblessness here at home?

What about his auto plan? Canada needs a strong auto sector. We need a strong auto sector that, according to the Canadian Vehicle Manufacturers' Association, is responsible for 105,000 direct jobs and a total of 600,000 jobs when we include indirect ones at places like the 700 auto parts suppliers, the 400 connected autonomous and smart vehicle firms, and the 500 tool and die and mould companies that feed into the supply chain.

Since the Liberals took office, auto production in Canada has fallen by half. Since the Prime Minister was elected a year ago, promising he would protect the auto sector, it has fallen another 7.3%. The Prime Minister promised before the election that he would protect the sector. It was another illusion. He has since waved the white flag. He even considered signing a sectoral deal in the fall that would have made the tariffs permanent and shut down our sector altogether.

He seems to think that he can carry out a permanent rupture with the United States market in favour of other markets. That is a dangerous illusion. In fact, if we look at the numbers, it verges on a hallucination. The reality is that we sell about 95 times more automobiles to the United States than we sell to the rest of the world combined. That is the reality. We cannot simply imagine up new markets to sell cars that we do not make in places that will not buy them from us.

The reality is that this approach of relying on imaginary plans has led to the following layoffs: 175 at Paccar in Quebec, 49 at Magna in London, 3,000 at Brampton Stellantis, 300 at Paccar in Sainte-Thérèse, Quebec, 118 at Autoneum in London, 245 at TFT Global in Oshawa, and 700 at GM in Oshawa. Of course, there are the lockouts at the Brampton Stellantis plant I visited.

A permanent rupture with the United States would be the end of the Canadian auto sector, period. It might not be enjoyable or exciting to say it, and it might be more fun to scream “elbows up”, but the jobs that the people in those plants rely on are more important than the Prime Minister's endless slogans. A permanent rupture to their paycheques is not acceptable; nor is it possible to simply say we will replace the Detroit three automakers with Japanese automakers.

The Japanese ambassador made it clear that having Toyota and Honda invest in Canada depends on unfettered access to the U.S. market, so even the 75% of the automobiles we make in Canada through the Asian automakers would not survive a permanent wall of tariffs from the United States. We absolutely must regain access to the U.S. market. In essence, losing U.S. access would likely decimate the Japanese-led portion of Canada's auto industry, which is three-quarters of our production. This would lead to a sharp long-term contraction of national production and an economic fallout across Ontario. Canada's auto sector must stay part of the North American supply chain.

We need a plan for jobs, not a plan to rupture jobs. We need a Canada that builds up its auto sector so that we can be strong at home and have more leverage abroad. We, as the Conservatives, are the only ones who have that plan. After months of consultation, led by the chair and the two co-chairs of the Conservative economic council, the member for Calgary Centre, the member for Kapuskasing—Timmins—Mushkegowuk and the great Rick Perkins, we have put together a plan that has the backing of the industry and the workers.

The Conservative plan would make it more affordable to buy Canadian vehicles by removing the GST on all Canadian-made automobiles. We would pay for it by getting rid of the $2.3-billion Liberal subsidy for foreign-made electric vehicles. We would cut taxes on vehicles made in Canada. The Liberals want to use tax dollars for vehicles made abroad. People who want a job in this country know what plan is going to work.

We would bring home production through performance by implementing a rule where for every car an automaker produces in Canada, it would have the right to import one tariff-free from a CUSMA partner. We would do that on a dollar-for-dollar basis, exactly as we used to do through the auto pact. This is important, because many people would ask if the President would ever accept it. This plan would increase American and Canadian production. American production would increase by about two million automobiles, or about a 17% increase in production, reversing its decline, and Canadian production would double, going up to two million vehicles every single year. It would ensure we build as many vehicles as we sell. This would be a much better deal for our American friends than they have right now and a significantly better deal for Canada. Because it aligns with the stated objective of the United States to produce more vehicles at home, it is one it would realistically sign.

We have developed an automotive security and technology policy by harmonizing our regulations to keep dangerous technology from Russia and China off our roads. We would stand firm against unfair trade practices by China and align the policies with those of the United States.

We would also get rid of the EV mandate the Prime Minister is trying to keep in place through the back channel of emissions standards that cannot be met by any other vehicle than an EV. We would ensure that the vehicles Canadians buy and that are on our streets are made in our country and ultimately affordable to the Canadian people.

This is a detailed plan to reverse the 10-year-long decline in automotive production that would allow North America to once again become the global powerhouse in producing automobiles. It would knock down the barriers and restore tariff-free trade across the border with our single biggest market by far anywhere in the world. This is a realistic plan, one that takes seriously the livelihoods of the hard-working people who rely on this sector for their jobs.

We are not interested in temporary slogans or political gratification. We are interested in protecting the jobs of our people and the strength of our country. We will be strong and affordable at home and have leverage abroad.

Opposition Motion—Tariff-Free Auto PactBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:15 p.m.

Winnipeg North Manitoba

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Mr. Speaker, maybe one of the best things I can do is recite a quote. There are many quotes with regard to the Conservative plan, but the one that spoke to me came from industry analyst Tom Venetis, who said, “They don't seem very well thought out. It's an argument that I don't think he understands will not work.”

The leader of the Conservative Party insulted the auto industry workers by not having consultations and not working with them before he announced the plan. I am wondering if he will formally apologize for incorporating a faulty plan and for not consulting with the workers.

Opposition Motion—Tariff-Free Auto PactBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Battle River—Crowfoot, AB

Mr. Speaker, I have breaking news hot off the presses. The member wants to talk about workers. We have here the president of Oshawa Unifor Local 222, saying, “Finally, a commonsense plan to protect the livelihood of thousands of Ontario Auto sector workers. A plan that restores past production levels and secures a long-term future”.

Opposition Motion—Tariff-Free Auto PactBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:20 p.m.

The Deputy Speaker Tom Kmiec

Before I give the floor to the member for Rivière-du-Nord, I have a reminder for members.

There are several members who rose to ask a question. As a reminder, members need to be in their seat and properly attired with a suit and tie in order to be recognized.

The hon. member for Rivière-du-Nord.

Opposition Motion—Tariff-Free Auto PactBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:20 p.m.

Bloc

Rhéal Fortin Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

Mr. Speaker, we are discussing the auto pact. However, in this day and age, we are more concerned with the issue of air pollution to start, and with the fact that we are facing an oil shortage. We will eventually run out completely. We are currently experiencing supply issues for reasons we are all aware of.

Is it not time to acknowledge the situation, turn to green energy and focus on producing electric vehicles that are entirely manufactured here in Canada?

Opposition Motion—Tariff-Free Auto PactBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Battle River—Crowfoot, AB

Mr. Speaker, the hon. Bloc Québécois member says there is a fuel shortage. That is exactly what we are saying. That is why we want to remove the oil and gas production cap so we can provide the world with the most ethical and environmentally responsible oil and gas possible. We have to take advantage of this because it is our largest global export.

Exporting Canadian oil and gas would strengthen our dollar and make groceries and gas more affordable, including in Quebec. It would mean more revenue coming in from industry instead of from taxpayers, including in Quebec. It would mean more demand for machinery made in Quebec for the industry in Alberta because we have a Canada-wide economy. Lastly, we need to build up a strategic reserve of oil and other resources to give us more power and leverage in negotiations with allies around the world.

That will make everything affordable here at home. It will make us stronger. We will be masters in our own house.

Opposition Motion—Tariff-Free Auto PactBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

March 24th, 2026 / 4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Kyle Seeback Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

Mr. Speaker, the industry minister has said some strange things, like we are going to build the cars the world wants and export them.

For question number one, I wonder if the Leader of the Opposition has any idea which markets the industry minister might be talking about that we would export these fantasy cars to.

For question number two, the Liberals talk about bringing investment into Canada with new manufacturing facilities. Can the Leader of the Opposition think of any auto manufacturer that would come and do new production in Canada while there are still 25% tariffs on all autos sent to the United States?

Opposition Motion—Tariff-Free Auto PactBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Battle River—Crowfoot, AB

Mr. Speaker, all of the automakers have made it clear that one of the great advantages of building in Canada is having access to the biggest and most lucrative market on planet earth.

Some 90% of the automobiles we make go to the United States. In fact, more of the automobiles we make are bought by Americans than by Canadians. We sell 95 times more vehicles to the Americans than we sell to overseas markets. Suddenly replacing 90% or 95% of our production with imaginary markets that the Prime Minister dreams up in his illusions is a dangerous path that threatens the 600,000 direct and indirect jobs in our automotive sector.

Effectively, the Liberals are saying we are simply going to make electric vehicles for overseas markets. Other than, I think, one or two lines, we do not make those cars in Canada for final assembly. We do not do the final assembly, and we do not have those overseas markets.

By the way, the Prime Minister somehow thinks he is going to overturn Chinese production, which is massively subsidized to the point that they can sell at enormous artificial discounts. He is going to overturn that artificial Chinese advantage in markets where we do not sell, with cars we do not make. That is an illusion and a hallucination.

Opposition Motion—Tariff-Free Auto PactBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

Bienvenu-Olivier Ntumba Liberal Mont-Saint-Bruno—L’Acadie, QC

Mr. Speaker, I have a question for the leader of the official opposition. Why propose an auto pact when our government has already put measures in place to protect the auto sector and jobs? Is he not making Parliament do twice the work when we are already making progress in this regard?

Opposition Motion—Tariff-Free Auto PactBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Battle River—Crowfoot, AB

Mr. Speaker, we have seen the results of this Liberal government. Since it took office, we have lost half of our automobile production. Much of this loss occurred when the current Minister of Finance and National Revenue was the industry minister responsible for the sector. This is not a new government.

Since the current Liberal Prime Minister took office, we have lost another 7.3% of our production. Worse still, there could be massive losses ahead if the tariffs are not lifted. That is why I have a plan to eliminate the tariffs in both directions and to achieve true free trade in the auto sector. That will make us stronger and help us to build a larger industry.

Opposition Motion—Tariff-Free Auto PactBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:25 p.m.

Bloc

Mario Simard Bloc Jonquière, QC

Mr. Speaker, the only benefit Quebec can derive from the automotive industry is if there are more electric vehicles on our roads and if people use more electricity. That way, Quebeckers get something out of it.

The Leader of the Opposition's indifference toward Quebec is well known. Just think of Don Cherry and the Order of Canada. The leader of the official opposition supported his nomination, despite all of Mr. Cherry's highly controversial statements about Quebec. Some of his own MPs even called him out on that.

Will any of his MPs call him out on this, to ensure that electric vehicles are always available in Quebec with a rebate?

Opposition Motion—Tariff-Free Auto PactBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Battle River—Crowfoot, AB

Mr. Speaker, EVs will be available. Anyone who wants an electric car will be able to buy one. That is what the free market is all about.

I trust Quebeckers. I want to give them a choice. The member and the Bloc Québécois want to force this down their throats. There are certain regions where EVs do not work, where people need their pick-up trucks. As a side note, Quebeckers usually choose the Ford F-150. That is the reality. It is their choice.

Obviously, we believe in freedom and we believe that Quebeckers are smart enough to make their own decisions. The Bloc Québécois wants to take away that choice and force their hand. We will let Quebeckers decide.

Opposition Motion—Tariff-Free Auto PactBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Ned Kuruc Conservative Hamilton East—Stoney Creek, ON

Mr. Speaker, we heard a lot of things in the House today in this debate, and we did not actually hear too much of what the Liberals' plan is.

I have a quote, since we are speaking of quotes. The parliamentary secretary said he will continue to “wait it out”. That is a part of their plan and strategy. That does not go very well for the Hamilton auto parts sector.

I would like to ask my hon. colleague to highlight some points of an actual plan that will get workers back to work.

Opposition Motion—Tariff-Free Auto PactBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Battle River—Crowfoot, AB

Mr. Speaker, what the parliamentary secretary says to workers who have lost their jobs is “wait it out.” What the Liberals say to the workers in Brampton who are locked out of their workplace is “wait it out.” What the Liberals say to the 8.3% of the market in Windsor that is unemployed is “wait it out.” One day, the Liberals say, this rupture will result in some sort of a repair with some other market that will one day lead to an imaginary job.

We do not think workers should have to wait it out. We think they should have tariff-free trade, they should have jobs and we should repatriate our production. Most important of all, we, as Conservatives, have a real plan to do it.

Opposition Motion—Tariff-Free Auto PactBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:30 p.m.

The Deputy Speaker Tom Kmiec

It is my duty pursuant to Standing Order 38 to inform the House that the questions to be raised tonight at the time of adjournment are as follows: the hon. member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, Employment; the hon. member for Saskatoon South, The Economy; the hon. member for Abitibi—Témiscamingue, Pensions.

Opposition Motion—Tariff-Free Auto PactBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:30 p.m.

Winnipeg North Manitoba

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Mr. Speaker, when I posed the question to the leader of the official opposition, I read a quote. All of a sudden, as I finished my question and the Conservative leader was about to stand up, he was looking around for a quote. We saw a piece of paper going down the line to the leader of the Conservative Party so that he would actually have a quote.

Having said that—

Opposition Motion—Tariff-Free Auto PactBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:30 p.m.

The Deputy Speaker Tom Kmiec

There is a point of order from the hon. Leader of the Opposition.

Opposition Motion—Tariff-Free Auto PactBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

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Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Battle River—Crowfoot, AB

Mr. Speaker, it is customary when a member makes reference to a document in the House of Commons that the document be tabled. Do I have unanimous consent to table, “Finally, a commonsense plan to protect the livelihood of thousands of Ontario Auto sector workers. A plan that restores past production levels and secures a long-term future”?

Do I have the unanimous consent of the House to table this quote?

Opposition Motion—Tariff-Free Auto PactBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:30 p.m.

The Deputy Speaker Tom Kmiec

Does the hon. member have unanimous consent to table a document?

Opposition Motion—Tariff-Free Auto PactBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

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Some hon. members

No.