House of Commons Hansard #121 of the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was affordability.
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Criminal Code Second reading of Bill S-233. The bill proposes making assaults against health care workers and first responders an aggravating sentencing factor. Conservatives emphasize the urgent need for protection against rising violence, criticizing past legislative delays. A Liberal representative welcomes the goals but notes broader government sentencing reforms, while the Bloc Québécois supports the bill while also advocating for increased health transfers to address systemic issues. 8600 words, 1 hour.
Budget 2025 Implementation Act, No. 2 Jean-Denis Garon (Bloc) invokes Standing Order 69.1 to request a separate vote on division 17 of Bill C-31, arguing that its substantial amendments to the Canada Transportation Act are unrelated to the budget. 500 words.
Bill C-30—Time Allocation Motion Members debate a Liberal motion limiting discussion on Bill C-30. Conservative and Bloc MPs criticize the use of time allocation as a tactic to stifle debate and avoid scrutiny regarding national debt. The government defends the move, insisting that expedited passing is necessary to deliver critical affordability measures and economic support to Canadians before the parliamentary summer break. 5100 words, 30 minutes.
Spring Economic Update 2026 Implementation Act Second reading of Bill C-30. The bill implements provisions from the spring economic update. Liberal members argue the measures provide essential affordability supports and infrastructure investment, framing them as fiscally responsible. Conversely, Conservatives characterize the legislation as a collection of short-term gimmicks that fail to address reckless government spending. Meanwhile, the Bloc Québécois and NDP highlight significant gaps, criticizing a lack of support for regional businesses and arguing the current government is taking progressives for granted. 31100 words, 4 hours in 2 segments: 1 2.
Premature Disclosure of a Bill and its Elements to a Third Party Xavier Barsalou-Duval raises a question of privilege, alleging the government leaked legislative details concerning Air Canada to an external party before informing the House, an accusation the Liberals and Conservatives reserve comment on. 700 words.
Ministerial Compliance with Order in Council—Speaker's Ruling The Speaker rules that the government’s failure to table reports from the Canadian Ombudsperson for Responsible Enterprise does not constitute a breach of privilege, as no law or Standing Order mandates their tabling. 800 words.
The Deputy Speaker Tom Kmiec
Before we return to debate, I will inform members that the five hours usually allocated for a government bill has now elapsed. At this time, members no longer need to say that they are splitting their time with another member. Standing Orders 43 and 74 cover this time period both during the five hours and after that time period.
Resuming debate, the hon. member for Leduc—Wetaskiwin.
Mike Lake Conservative Leduc—Wetaskiwin, AB
Mr. Speaker, I listened closely to the hon. parliamentary secretary's speech. At one point she did ask what we would cut. Let me be very clear, because she also referenced my home province of Alberta in kind of a flippant way.
The first things we would cut would be Bill C-69 and Bill C-48, which have made it impossible to compete in the global environment where, believe it or not, oil coming to Canada from Algeria, Nigeria and Saudi Arabia faces fewer restrictions and less rigorous regulation around reporting than oil coming from Alberta being sold in our own country. Bill C-69 and Bill C-48 are where we would start cutting.
An hon. member
Oh, oh!
Mike Lake Conservative Leduc—Wetaskiwin, AB
I know the member is heckling me, Mr. Speaker, but I do want to talk about something fairly serious to me. She made the assertion that Conservatives do not care about the most vulnerable. The member is new to the House and is mocking me as she smiles.
The member might not know that I have a son with autism. He is 30 years old. I talk about this a lot in the House. In 1995, when we were in a similar situation to what we are in now and we had a Liberal government dealing with a generation after the 14 out of 15 deficits that the former Trudeau government had run, that Liberal government, under Paul Martin, was forced to cut 32% from transfers for health, social services and education. Every province in the country and every vulnerable Canadian in the country had to pay the consequences of those devastating cuts.
Those devastating cuts happened for exactly the same reason, because of the exact same type of fiscal policy that the current Liberal government is running. We have massive deficits, a situation I mentioned a few minutes ago in which we are paying more on interest today than we are on the Canadian health transfer. Because of deliberate spending decisions made by the member's government, today we are spending more on interest than we are on the Canadian health transfer.
The Liberals' own budget documents presented in the spring economic statement indicate that by 2030, we are going to be using the entire deficit to pay off interest on the debt. It is the equivalent of going to a bank, getting a mortgage and convincing the bank to allow payment of only the interest on that mortgage, not paying off any of the principal but only making interest payments on the mortgage. That is the situation we are in today.
Another Liberal member just called that the best fiscal situation in the world. That is laughable. There is no Canadian who believes that right now. I have a quote from C.S. Lewis. This goes back a while, but I find it a perfect quote for where we are right now. Lewis said:
We all want progress. But progress means getting nearer to the place you want to be. And if you have taken a wrong turning, then to go forward does not get you any nearer. If you are on the wrong road, progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road; and in that case the [one] who turns back soonest is the most progressive....
We need to turn back. We need to get this country's fiscal situation back on track. We need to have a plan, at least someone on the government side who indicates that it is important to one day get back to a balanced budget and a time when we have the flexibility to make the best decisions we can for all Canadians, including the most vulnerable.
John-Paul Danko Liberal Hamilton West—Ancaster—Dundas, ON
Mr. Speaker, the International Monetary Fund said straight up that Canada is in the best fiscal position of the G7. I am wondering if the member opposite understands the difference between investment and spending, because Canadians sure do.
Mike Lake Conservative Leduc—Wetaskiwin, AB
Mr. Speaker, all I can say is that, in 2015, we had a balanced budget and the richest middle class in the world, and we are a long ways from there today.
The Deputy Speaker Tom Kmiec
It being 7:03 p.m., pursuant to an order made earlier today, it is my duty to interrupt the proceedings and put forthwith every question necessary to dispose of the second reading stage of the bill now before the House.
The question is on the amendment.
If a member participating in person wishes that the amendment be carried or carried on division, or if a member of a recognized party participating in person wishes to request a recorded division, I would invite them to rise and indicate it to the Chair.
The Deputy Speaker Tom Kmiec
Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the division stands deferred until Tuesday, May 26, at the expiry of the time provided for Oral Questions.
I see the parliamentary secretary is rising on a point of order.
Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB
Mr. Speaker, I suspect if you canvass the House, you will find unanimous consent to call it 7:18 p.m. at this time so we can get into the late show.
Some hon. members
Agreed.
A motion to adjourn the House under Standing Order 38 deemed to have been moved.
Warren Steinley Conservative Regina—Lewvan, SK
Mr. Speaker, it is a pleasure for me to take to my feet today to ask for a more substantive answer to a question I asked in question period about a month ago.
I asked the Liberal finance minister if he should be held to his own words. I remember back in 2023 that minister had said he would have grocery prices under control by Thanksgiving 2023. Those are not the only comments we have heard about grocery prices over the last few years from the Liberal government members. We also heard the Prime Minister tell all Canadians that he should be judged by the prices they see at the grocery store. I think it is fair to hold people accountable to their own words. Even my kids know they are responsible for the words that come out of their mouths. I would expect the same from these Liberals when they say something.
I would also ask about the fact that this Prime Minister was elected on a promise to Canadians that he would have a trade deal done with Donald Trump in the United States by July 1, 2025. That has long since passed, so I would ask the Canadian public to hold the Liberals accountable to the words they have actually spoken and the promises they have committed to.
We have seen these Liberals cheerlead and pat themselves on the back because they are giving out tariff relief. If they had kept their word and gotten a trade deal with the U.S.A. and handled Donald Trump, as the Prime Minister said on the campaign trail, they would not have to be handing out tariff relief to companies. They would be able to make their own money, trade, do what they do best and make great Canadian products and sell them from coast to coast, to our neighbours to the south and around the world.
I would like an answer on why the Liberals keep cheering for themselves when they have failed at every measurable thing they have committed to. They committed to lowering grocery prices. They failed. They committed to getting a trade deal done with the United States. They failed. They committed to child care. I know there is going to be an answer on this from whoever is going to answer over there that they do have child care, but, right now, the child care program has failed miserably. They promised 250,000 new spaces by the end of March. They are at 155,000 spaces, which is 62% of what they promised. Once again, the promise was made, but the promise was not kept by these Liberals. It is really a lie of the left. They commit to things, but they never follow through.
We see the Desjardins report, which says, “the share of respondents mentioning the lack of available childcare spaces or long waitlists rose sharply over this period, from 1 in 15 [in 2019] to...1 in 5 [now].” It is harder and harder for parents to find child care spaces because the private ones could not compete. We saw this in the GTA also. Before the child care program, child care spaces were rising from 5% to 7% a year. Now, during some years, we have seen decreases in child care spaces. It is an abject failure of a program that we had questions about from the start, and parents are being burdened by the failures of the government. Whether it be child care spaces or food prices, it is a fail. Trade deals with the U.S.A. are a fail.
Is there anything the government has succeeded at? Can it show us any segment of the Canadian population that is better off now than before the Liberals' last 10 terrible years of government?
Caroline Desrochers LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Housing and Infrastructure
Mr. Speaker, the member keeps talking about getting a deal, any deal, with the American administration, but I do not think this is what Canadians want. At a time when Canadians are facing heightened affordability pressures from sources beyond our control, it is more important than ever—
Caroline Desrochers Liberal Trois-Rivières, QC
Mr. Speaker, the member is saying it is not true. Yes, it is.
It is more important than ever that we find opportunities for improvement that are within our control. We need to control what we can. We know that Canadians are feeling the pressure of everyday expenses right now, especially when it comes to the cost of fuel. Canadians and consumers around the world are facing higher prices at the pumps, creating uncertainty and pressure on household finances. This is stemming directly from the events that are unfolding in the Middle East right now.
This is why, on April 14, the Prime Minister announced a temporary suspension of the federal fuel excise tax on gasoline, diesel and aviation fuels across Canada. The suspension started on April 20 and will remain in effect until Labour Day. We are expecting that this will reduce Canadians' bill at the pumps by up to 10¢ per litre on gasoline and up to four cents per litre on diesel. This is adding to the 18¢ reduction from the carbon tax that we removed when we came into power last year.
This is also in addition to the other measures we have put in place to support Canadians. We introduced the Canada groceries and essentials benefit to make everyday essentials like groceries more affordable. I know my colleagues across the aisle will mock this, but this measure builds on the GST credit and will provide additional support for more than 12 million Canadians. This is going to start with a one-time top-up next week, on June 5. Combined with a 25% increase in the benefit for five years as of July, a family of four will receive up to $1,890 this year, and a single person up to $950 in 2026. This is money in the pockets of Canadians. This is money that can help families make ends meet at the end of the month. This is money that can provide relief.
We also know that a big part of taking things into our own hands is making life more affordable for Canadians. That is why Bill C-30 is proposing to extend the grace period during which homeowners are not required to start repaying their homebuyers' plan withdrawals from the RRSP from two years to five years. The homebuyers' plan helps eligible homebuyers save for a down payment by allowing them to withdraw up to $60,000 from an RRSP to purchase or build their first home, something the Conservatives voted against, or a home for a specified disabled person, without having to pay tax on the withdrawal. This extended grace period already applies to withdrawals made between 2022 and 2025 and provides relief of up to $4,000 per individual per year for three years, over which they are not required to repay the amount into their RRSP.
Everyone deserves a roof over their head. That is why our government is taking action and putting housing and home ownership within reach of more Canadians.
Warren Steinley Conservative Regina—Lewvan, SK
Mr. Speaker, if my kids gave me that answer when I asked them a question, I would be bitterly disappointed. It is always someone else's fault with these Liberals. It is never their fault. Regarding gasoline prices, they say, “It is not our fault. We took the tax off.” However, there is not a place in the country where the price of gas is lower than it was before. They only went a third of the way. They could have taken off all the tax on all the gas for the year, but they did not.
With respect to home prices, they say, “We are going to build homes at speeds never seen before, generational speeds.” Fewer houses are being built in Canada this year than were built last year. You are failing at everything, and it is always someone else's fault.
The parliamentary secretary could give me another answer, but I am guessing she will say the dog ate her homework.
The EconomyAdjournment Proceedings
The Deputy Speaker Tom Kmiec
Just as a reminder, despite our being in Adjournment Proceedings, members should still speak through the Chair, when using “you” specifically.
I invite the parliamentary secretary to respond.
Caroline Desrochers Liberal Trois-Rivières, QC
Mr. Speaker, the measures in the recent spring economic update are part of the next step in our plan to build a stronger, more independent and resilient Canada for all, because we do have a plan on this side of the House. It would advance our progress in building more affordable homes and the major infrastructure that transforms and connects our economy, while bringing down costs to help people get ahead. It would help businesses seize new opportunities and give families the confidence to plan their future. It would build a Canada that is not just strong, but good; not just prosperous, but fair.
Andrew Lawton Conservative Elgin—St. Thomas—London South, ON
Mr. Speaker, it is a great privilege to rise on behalf of the people of Elgin—St. Thomas—London South.
Oftentimes, people who watch question period with the Liberal government in power will remark that there is a reason it is not called answer period. We often cannot get, in a 35-second sound bite, much substance from the Liberals, which is why I am glad to have the opportunity to take another crack at a very important question today.
Those watching who are not familiar with what we call “late shows” in this chamber will remark that there are very few people in the House. There are no journalists present. There is no one in the gallery. There is just me and the parliamentary secretary and a couple of other keen stragglers here. I am hoping we can have a discussion rooted in the substance of the matter, which is that Canadians cannot afford life right now. Canadians cannot afford groceries. Canadians cannot afford the price of fuel.
The question I initially asked in question period was about when the Liberals will commit to truly providing relief, not for Liberal insiders, not for consultants, not for bankers and bondholders, but for ordinary Canadians. Canadians cannot afford the price of gas right now, which is especially germane in rural ridings like my own where driving is not, in fact, a choice. It is a necessity to go to school, to work, to medical appointments.
We put forward a very clear-cut plan, which was to get the Liberals to cut all federal taxes on fuel for the entirety of the year, as a starting point. Instead, the Liberals responded by saying they would cut a third of the taxes for a third of the year. Something is better than nothing, but not that much. When we talked about this in recent weeks, some Liberals asked, “Well, where are you going to get the money for that from?”
The Liberals will often say that any tax cut has to come at the expense of services, but that is a red herring that is rooted in a fundamental misrepresentation of what the Liberals have prioritized spending on. I would like to mention a couple of those things here. The Liberals are committing $90 billion to an Alto rail project that Canadians do not want and that will not benefit people in the majority of the country, certainly not people in southwestern Ontario. They are spending $742 billion on a firearms confiscation scheme that law enforcement has said will not improve public safety. Federal bureaucracy spending is expected to reach $66 billion this year. It has grown in the last year, outpacing inflation and outpacing the rise in the population of this country. Debt interest is $58.7 billion. That is money paying the interest payments on the federal credit card.
Then we found out, of course, that the Liberals are spending $200 million on a launch pad. That is what they call it, but it is actually a gravel pit in Nova Scotia. It is on provincial government land, yet they are paying this to insider-connected companies as part of this ambitious Liberal space strategy that Canadians cannot afford in the way they are presenting it. They are spending $13 billion for Build Canada Homes, a housing bureaucracy with no track record of actually building homes, along with $20 billion on external consultants.
All of this could go away and fund a fuel tax reduction for Canadians and a significant other suite of relief measures without affecting services at all. My question is, why are the Liberals not doing this? Why are they not looking inside themselves, as the Prime Minister has said to some people in the past, and finding ways to save money, which is not theirs but the taxpayers'?
Sherry Romanado LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Minister of National Defence
Mr. Speaker, Canada has long been a global leader in the aerospace sector. Establishing Canadian sovereign space launch capabilities will drive billions in investments, create good-paying jobs, increase Canada's sovereignty, and support a commercial space launch and re-entry industry that could be worth up to $40 billion. This is what we are investing in. These are essential capabilities that protect Canada and create massive economic benefits for Canadians. In fact, it is estimated that the sector sustains 225,000 jobs across Canada.
Through Canada's first-ever defence industrial strategy, along with our recent investments in aerospace capabilities, we are working hard to grow this sector even further. This strategy provides the signal to industry, allies, partners, the Canadian Armed Forces and Canadians that we are moving forward quickly and with purpose.
The defence industrial strategy identifies space as one of 10 sovereign capabilities for Canada. These are the capabilities we need to invest in and foster so that our military can remain agile, effective and ready to meet the requirements of a more complex security environment, and so that we can support Canadian workers and Canadian industry by building on what we already do very well.
By prioritizing space capabilities and other sovereign capabilities, and by making a host of other changes to how we are rebuilding and re-equipping our forces while reinvesting in them, we anticipate that the defence industrial strategy will deliver impressive results, including 125,000 high-quality jobs across the Canadian economy, an increase in total revenue for the Canadian defence industry of more than 240%, and a 50% increase in Canada's defence exports. This will all occur over the next decade.
Our new build-partner-buy strategy means that we are investing in Canadian workers, in Canadian industry and in the Canadian economy. Our investments in Canada's space capabilities will translate into new jobs, stronger supply chains, greater industrial capacity and a more resilient Canadian economy.
I will turn to one such investment in particular, the spaceport near Canso, Nova Scotia. As the Minister of National Defence announced back in March, Canada has signed a 10-year, $200-million agreement with Maritime Launch Services to build out Canada's sovereign launch infrastructure. As part of this agreement, Maritime Launch Services must spend 90% of that funding here in Canada. This means that $180 million will go back into Canadian businesses. Moreover, we expect that, once complete, it will help bring direct and indirect benefits to Canada's space, industrial, hospitality and tourism sectors, including those in the local community. Canada and Canso, in particular, are a natural choice for this launch capability.
We have the space expertise, the industrial capacity and a site near Canso that is suitable for safe and effective launch operations, because of its proximity to the ocean. That is why many of our allies and partners have already expressed interest in collaborating with us to support their own launches, which will create even more opportunities in the region.
The Canadian Space Agency is in Longueuil, and I have visited it many times. This capability is incredibly important to our national defence and our sovereignty. In short, this investment is good news for Nova Scotia, for Canada and for everyone who works in the space domain.
Andrew Lawton Conservative Elgin—St. Thomas—London South, ON
Mr. Speaker, when the Artemis mission was on the far side of the moon, it was still closer to answering the question than the parliamentary secretary just was.
I spoke about very real concerns, such as the price of fuel and groceries, and I mentioned a number of ways the Liberal government is not being respectful of taxpayer money. Instead, she came in here with a canned four-minute statement on just one of the many line items I mentioned, showing that the Liberals are not even prepared to rise in the House to defend their reckless spending.
A general contractor in my riding is saying that, without relief on the price of fuel, he will find himself forced to lay off employees. A man in Central Elgin, a struggling parent, says he is putting groceries on his credit card because that is the only way to pay for them. Another one says she has to move because she cannot afford the cost of living in a place that she always thought would be affordable.
Why are the Liberals ignoring these Canadians?
Sherry Romanado Liberal Longueuil—Charles-LeMoyne, QC
Mr. Speaker, only a Conservative would say that spending 2% of GDP on defence is a waste. Being from a military family, I find that, quite frankly, incredibly offensive.
The capabilities that this investment will allow us to have are incredibly important to not only our military response, but also our domestic response, whether that be wildfires, flooding or so on and so forth. To assume otherwise is absolutely incorrect.
By the way, seeing that it is Monday evening, I just want to say, go, Habs, go!
Tamara Jansen Conservative Cloverdale—Langley City, BC
Mr. Speaker, Canada's housing market today looks a lot like a young man driving a road racer down an icy highway in the middle of winter. The engine roars, the tires grip and the driver thinks he is in control and so he presses harder on the gas. Imagine a souped-up, five-litre Mustang with more horsepower than common sense. The speed builds, but suddenly the tires lose traction. The steering becomes unstable, and the vehicle starts sliding. A smart driver would ease off carefully and regain control but, just like a reckless teenager, the Liberal government does not believe in restraint. It believes Ottawa can control markets better than Canadians themselves, and that arrogance is exactly what has driven Canada's housing market into the ditch.
First, the Liberals went full throttle on immigration and population growth without building the homes, infrastructure, roads, utilities or skilled labour force needed to support it. Canada added well over one million new residents in a single year, one of the fastest population growth rates in the developed world. The Liberal government drove demand through the roof while supply was trapped behind taxes, red tape, permitting delays and development charges, forcing prices to explode. Young families were suddenly bidding against impossible demand. Rents soared and house prices spiralled. Ordinary Canadians who worked hard and played by the rules found themselves locked out of home ownership altogether.
The Liberals treated the housing market like a driver flooring a powerful car on black ice and then acted surprised when the whole thing started fishtailing. Then, after overheating the market, the Liberals pulled the emergency brake, cutting immigration and locking us in a dangerous skid. At the peak, they brought one million international students into the country and then abruptly, this year, came to a screeching halt of less than half. However, when a car is already sliding, hitting the brakes too hard does not restore control; it sends the whole vehicle spinning. Adding to that chaos, the Liberals' so-called build Canada approach threw billions of dollars at the catastrophic crash site.
Once again, the Liberals believed they could centrally plan the economy from the top down. They encouraged prefab factories and construction suppliers to tool up for enormous future projects that have not materialized. Billions were announced, bureaucracies expanded, but uncertainty exploded. Development costs climbed even higher. Builders were crushed between rising interest rates, government interference, expensive regulations and constantly changing rules. Instead of stabilizing housing, Liberal central planning created even greater instability.
Now, we are seeing the devastating consequences. Across the Fraser Valley, we have warning lights flashing everywhere. Thind Properties, Maskeen Group, Brivia Group, Coromandel Properties, Square Nine Developments, 14 Property Group, Wade Development, and Everest Group are struggling with receiverships, insolvencies, foreclosures, creditor protection, stalled projects, laid-off workers and families left wondering whether the homes they paid for will ever even be built. This is what happens when government distorts markets long enough that confidence itself begins to collapse.
Conservatives believe in a common-sense approach. We believe that the people who know how to build homes are builders, not politicians. We believe government should stop choking developments with taxes, delays, gatekeepers and ideological central planning. We believe in getting government out of the way so the private sector can do what it does best: build. Canadians do not need more politicians grabbing the steering wheel. They need a government with enough wisdom to finally let the country get back on track.
Will the Liberal government admit that its housing policies are the reason Canadians cannot afford a home?