House of Commons Hansard #124 of the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was chair.

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Department of Citizenship and Immigration—Main Estimates, 2026-27Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

9 p.m.

Liberal

Lena Metlege Diab Liberal Halifax West, NS

Mr. Chair, I have answered the question a number of times. The member may not like the response, but I have already provided those answers.

Department of Citizenship and Immigration—Main Estimates, 2026-27Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

9 p.m.

Conservative

Brad Redekopp Conservative Saskatoon West, SK

Mr. Chair, the minister is responsible for the Immigration and Refugee Board. Who sets the refugee policy in Canada: Parliament, the minister or the IRB chairperson?

Department of Citizenship and Immigration—Main Estimates, 2026-27Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

9 p.m.

Halifax West Nova Scotia

Liberal

Lena Metlege Diab LiberalMinister of Immigration

Mr. Chair, I welcome my colleague across the way. I have not seen him since we were at the United Nations together. He knows that the IRB is an independent body.

Department of Citizenship and Immigration—Main Estimates, 2026-27Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

9 p.m.

Conservative

Brad Redekopp Conservative Saskatoon West, SK

Mr. Chair, perhaps the minister remembers that I asked her questions just about 45 minutes ago.

The IRB is independent, so does Parliament have no authority to set refugee policy in Canada? Is it all up to the independent IRB?

Department of Citizenship and Immigration—Main Estimates, 2026-27Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

9 p.m.

Liberal

Lena Metlege Diab Liberal Halifax West, NS

Mr. Chair, welcome to you.

The IRB is an independent body. It does set its rules according to the law of the land. We have a Constitution, and we have laws we also adhere to.

Department of Citizenship and Immigration—Main Estimates, 2026-27Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

9 p.m.

Conservative

Brad Redekopp Conservative Saskatoon West, SK

Mr. Chair, if a foreign national or a permanent resident is convicted of a serious crime, should they leave Canada?

Department of Citizenship and Immigration—Main Estimates, 2026-27Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

9 p.m.

Liberal

Lena Metlege Diab Liberal Halifax West, NS

Mr. Chair, all serious crimes should be dealt with by the courts, by the laws and by the board, and there are consequences that criminals face.

Department of Citizenship and Immigration—Main Estimates, 2026-27Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

9 p.m.

Conservative

Brad Redekopp Conservative Saskatoon West, SK

Mr. Chair, if Parliament says serious criminals must leave Canada, does the minister believe that the Immigration and Refugee Board should do the opposite and help them stay?

Department of Citizenship and Immigration—Main Estimates, 2026-27Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

9 p.m.

Liberal

Lena Metlege Diab Liberal Halifax West, NS

Mr. Chair, again, if the question relates to the IRB, it is an independent body, as I said. It does report to Parliament. There are laws in the country that it has to adhere to, and we expect it to do that.

Department of Citizenship and Immigration—Main Estimates, 2026-27Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

9:05 p.m.

Conservative

Brad Redekopp Conservative Saskatoon West, SK

Mr. Chair, I am confused. If Parliament has laws on refugee policy, and if the Immigration and Refugee Board does the opposite of what those laws say, is that a problem in the minister's mind?

Department of Citizenship and Immigration—Main Estimates, 2026-27Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

9:05 p.m.

Liberal

Lena Metlege Diab Liberal Halifax West, NS

Mr. Chair, if we find a person in Canada who has committed a crime, Canada Border Services Agency investigates that, and they could become inadmissible.

Department of Citizenship and Immigration—Main Estimates, 2026-27Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

9:05 p.m.

Conservative

Brad Redekopp Conservative Saskatoon West, SK

Mr. Chair, I am sure the minister is aware that the IRB chair just issued new guidelines to create new ways for serious criminals to delay deportation. Did the minister personally approve these new guidelines?

Department of Citizenship and Immigration—Main Estimates, 2026-27Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

9:05 p.m.

Liberal

Lena Metlege Diab Liberal Halifax West, NS

Mr. Chair, the IRB is an independent body. It has to adhere to Canadian law, and that is exactly what it is doing.

Department of Citizenship and Immigration—Main Estimates, 2026-27Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

9:05 p.m.

Conservative

Brad Redekopp Conservative Saskatoon West, SK

Mr. Chair, who appoints the IRB members?

Department of Citizenship and Immigration—Main Estimates, 2026-27Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

9:05 p.m.

Liberal

Lena Metlege Diab Liberal Halifax West, NS

Mr. Chair, again, if a person in Canada has committed a crime, they are investigated by the Canada Border Services Agency, and there are consequences.

Department of Citizenship and Immigration—Main Estimates, 2026-27Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

May 28th, 2026 / 9:05 p.m.

Conservative

Brad Redekopp Conservative Saskatoon West, SK

Mr. Chair, the minister seems to be avoiding the question.

Who actually appoints the IRB members?

Department of Citizenship and Immigration—Main Estimates, 2026-27Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

9:05 p.m.

Liberal

Lena Metlege Diab Liberal Halifax West, NS

Mr. Chair, the IRB has a number of officers. They are appointed for certain terms, and it goes through an OIC process.

Department of Citizenship and Immigration—Main Estimates, 2026-27Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

9:05 p.m.

Conservative

Brad Redekopp Conservative Saskatoon West, SK

Mr. Chair, the minister is still confused. I know it is getting late. She is the one who appoints the IRB members, just for the minister's record.

Is the minister in support of the IRB's making up these new rules so convicted criminals can delay deportation even more?

Department of Citizenship and Immigration—Main Estimates, 2026-27Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

9:05 p.m.

Liberal

Lena Metlege Diab Liberal Halifax West, NS

Mr. Chair, I believe that was written in some article that was in fact corrected because it was not correct. The guidelines do not allow inadmissibility hearings to be delayed.

Department of Citizenship and Immigration—Main Estimates, 2026-27Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

9:05 p.m.

Conservative

Brad Redekopp Conservative Saskatoon West, SK

Mr. Chair, will the minister direct the IRB not to use these new guidelines to delay the removal of serious criminals?

Department of Citizenship and Immigration—Main Estimates, 2026-27Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

9:05 p.m.

Liberal

Lena Metlege Diab Liberal Halifax West, NS

Mr. Chair, the IRB has confirmed that it will use them only in very exceptional, limited circumstances. They are not used in cases.

Department of Citizenship and Immigration—Main Estimates, 2026-27Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

9:05 p.m.

Conservative

Brad Redekopp Conservative Saskatoon West, SK

Mr. Chair, it will use these rules, then? If a serious criminal stays in Canada because of these rules it will use from time to time, as the minister just said, will she take responsibility for this?

Department of Citizenship and Immigration—Main Estimates, 2026-27Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

9:05 p.m.

Liberal

Lena Metlege Diab Liberal Halifax West, NS

Mr. Chair, our government remains focused on removing criminals from the country.

Department of Citizenship and Immigration—Main Estimates, 2026-27Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

9:05 p.m.

Conservative

Brad Redekopp Conservative Saskatoon West, SK

Mr. Chair, the government will not tell the independent Immigration and Refugee Board what to do. I do not even know what to say about that.

Let us talk about exit tracking. Does the government know exactly when temporary residents leave the country?

Department of Citizenship and Immigration—Main Estimates, 2026-27Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

9:05 p.m.

Liberal

Lena Metlege Diab Liberal Halifax West, NS

Mr. Chair, that is a really good question. Under my watch, we have laid the foundation for the first exit tracking system in the country.