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  • His favourite word was fredericton.

Last in Parliament September 2008, as Liberal MP for Fredericton (New Brunswick)

Won his last election, in 2006, with 42% of the vote.

Statements in the House

Supply December 5th, 1995

Madam Speaker, one of the benefits of the recently announced employment insurance amendments has to do with the fact that coverage is going to be broadened quite considerably. Many people will have access to employment insurance who have not had access to it in the past.

Another significant advantage is the low income protection contained in the amendments. This will allow up to 80 per cent of insurable earnings to be covered for low income families with children.

There are also the advantages in terms of the long term political viability of the program in that high income earners will have a greater percentage of their benefits clawed back. As an Atlantic Canadian, I am somewhat tired of all of those who point to us and talk about all those wealthy people who are drawing unemployment insurance benefits after making large amounts of money. It does not happen very often. By introducing this clawback we will be able to establish that more quickly in the minds of Canadians.

I would also point out the importance of the employment benefit programs that are part of the package. There were 39 in the past which have been reduced to five. Those five programs will now be managed essentially by local officials which means if one element of the package is more suitable to my constituency then all of the attention could be placed in that area. That is a huge improvement.

The job partnership program meets a very real need in my part of Canada. Many people do not acquire enough coverage for the full 52-week period. For example, people are eligible for 26 weeks of insurance benefits yet their summer job or their seasonal job does not start until 10 weeks beyond that.

One of the elements of the new employment benefit package is a job partnership program which will allow job creation opportunities in the communities. This will allow people to fill in that gap when they otherwise would not have benefits or income.

I pay tribute to the minister for last year's consultation. As an Atlantic Canadian, I have been particularly concerned about the bill and the UI changes. I can only say good things about the amount of consultation the minister has allowed and I understand he is going to continue to receive when we look at the bill in committee.

Supply December 5th, 1995

Madam Speaker, in support of my colleague for South Shore, I simply advise the member from the Bloc that we from the maritimes need not be told that unemployed people are not lazy.

I will speak to a number of benefits included in the minister's recent announcement. Probably the most important benefit concerns the fact that employment insurance will now be much more inclusive. There are estimates that up to half a million people who were not eligible to be included in the benefits of the unemployment insurance will be included for benefits under employment insurance.

I cannot overestimate how important that provision is because it will allow many Canadians inside the system who currently are on income assistance in the province of New Brunswick to qualify. In many cases they could not find sufficient numbers of weeks to work but could certainly find the number of hours necessary under this provision. There will be people in my province who will be able to qualify with nine or ten weeks of work who might have needed to find fourteen or fifteen weeks of work in the past. They will have access to the program by virtue of the fact that the industries in Atlantic Canada are very seasonal. During peak periods they can work long hours but they cannot extend the long hours over a large number of weeks. It is very important that it has a very progressive outcome by virtue of that.

A message was delivered by the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod as follows:

Madam Speaker, the Honourable Deputy to the Governor General desires the immediate attendance of this honourable House in the chamber of the honourable the Senate.

Accordingly, the Speaker with the House went up to the Senate chamber.

And being returned:

Ripples Internment Camp November 30th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, last week I attended a ceremony marking the site of the Ripples Internment Camp near Fredericton. This camp was originally constructed to accommodate Jewish refugees during the second world war and was later used as an internment camp. The organizing committee hopes eventually to rebuild the camp along with a museum to keep the camp's memory alive.

Canada has a long history of accommodating refugees, a history of which it can be proud. However history tells us that mistakes have been made. We must learn from them, grow and make sure we recognize our international obligations to those oppressed around the world.

It is important to remember what happened during the second world war because history must live. I commend Ed Caissie and the rest of the committee for reminding all of us of the horror of the Holocaust.

National Child Day November 20th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, in March 1993 the Government of Canada designated November 20 as National Child Day.

The enactment of National Child Day was a culmination of efforts by Our Kids Foundation in Ottawa which convinced the government to designate a special day for children.

The adoption of the Convention on the Rights of the Child and National Child Day reflects the growing recognition that children are important in their own right and valued members of our society. It also provides us with the opportunity to reflect on the special needs of children and the matters that concern them.

I have been collecting letters from children across the country who urge the Prime Minister to remember the promises made at the World Summit for Children in 1990 to reduce poverty and

illiteracy. I have received over 100 heartfelt letters from children of all ages.

We need to work together to improve the well-being of children from all nations as they are truly the future of the planet.

Mr. Philip McKenzie November 10th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, I would like to congratulate Mr. Philip McKenzie, a constituent from my riding of Fredericton-York-Sunbury who was one of three young Canadians selected to attend the World Energy Congress in Tokyo a few weeks ago.

His paper entitled "Nuclear Energy: A Green Option" was selected to be presented at the Youth Energy Symposium. Philip is a student of the department of chemical engineering at the University of New Brunswick. It is heartening to see his hard work and commitment being internationally recognized.

The work of talented young individuals such as Philip McKenzie is leading Canada into the 21st century.

Once again I want to congratulate him on an outstanding accomplishment.

Department Of Health Act November 7th, 1995

Madam Speaker, I am pleased to have the opportunity to speak in support of Bill C-95.

In creating the Department of Health, this bill not only makes good administrative sense, it also makes good economic sense. The concepts of health and economics are intertwined. The health of the Canadian people is vital to the health of the Canadian economy and the health of the Canadian economy is vital to the health of Canadian people.

Our medicare system is based on sound economic principles, the same kind investors look for in evaluating a private sector enterprise. There are four main reasons for the success of this system.

First, our publicly funded system has enormous economies of scale. We have only one insurer in each province that provides standard health insurance coverage to all residents. No risk rating is needed. Payments to providers are simple. Financing the system is streamlined.

Second, our system results in lower overhead costs. Researchers at Harvard have found that Canada spends only 1.1 per cent of gross domestic product on health care administration. The United States with its private health insurance scheme spends about two and a half times that much. If we spent as much as the Americans do on administration, health care expenditures in Canada would increase by $18.5 billion a year. That is more than the entire health care budget for the province of Ontario.

Third, a publicly financed system can ensure universal coverage. That is an important element to a healthy workforce which contributes to a more competitive economy and economic growth. When there are fewer work days lost to illness productivity increases. Healthier people make fewer demands on the system. They live longer and they contribute more to the overall wealth of the nation.

The fourth factor that makes public health insurance more efficient is government's tremendous bargaining power in negotiating the cost of service by setting and enforcing global budgets for hospitals and physicians' fees. This gives government powerful levers to keep health care costs under control. In fact real per capita public health expenditures in this country have been declining since 1993. Estimates for 1994 suggest public spending on health declined in real terms by about 3.4 per cent.

Economic analysis makes it clear that Canada's health system provides major economic benefits. These benefits stem from efficiencies and cost savings associated with public funding.

Our health system attracts investment to Canada and it helps business to compete from Canada. Enormous economies of scale, lower overhead costs, improved worker productivity, tremendous bargaining power and proven results; if you heard, Madam Speaker, of a private company that could point to those attributes you would be rushing off to call your broker.

Our public health insurance system is a major asset to business. It is not a subsidy. It is an efficiency. We have entered an era when the public sector's role is quite appropriately being re-examined. Valid questions are being asked about government's place and the values of public funding versus private funding.

Health care is one area where government is not just as efficient, it is more efficient. It is not by accident that the United Nations rates Canada number one in the human development index. It has taken effort, and the development of the medicare system has been an important part of that.

It is also not surprising that an Environics survey in late 1993 concluded that 79 per cent of Canadians believe it is very important for the federal government to sustain the health system. Medicare, as we know, is an insurance program. In effect we have used our ingenuity, our foresight and tax dollars to create a giant insurance pool covering all Canadians. Health care needs and the related costs that medicare covers would generally exist no matter what system we have in place to pay and as we know health services are never free. Public or private, somebody must pay.

All we have to do is look at the auto industry. For every car that rolls off the assembly lines of Detroit the cost includes an average of more than $700 U.S. for privately funded health insurance. Is it any wonder that the big three automakers have consistently been among the strongest voices for a comprehensive public health insurance plan in the United States? Universal coverage is much more difficult, if not impossible, in a system based on private insurance schemes. We have evidence of that in the United States where fully 15 per cent of Americans are without any health insurance at all.

One fact will put this in perspective. We spend only 1.1 per cent of our GDP on health care administration. That is about $272 per person. The U.S. spends about two and a half times that much, about $615 U.S. per person and not one of those billions of additional dollars goes to patient services.

There is no direct relationship between increased health care spending and health outcomes. Health is determined by a number of factors of which health care is only one. The environment within which we are raised and live in is another. We do not necessarily gain better health from extra health care spending.

With those two facts it is clear that controlling health costs makes sense for both the public and the private sector. The need is to spend money wisely. Our medicare system, through federal-provincial funding, covers 72 per cent of total health spending in Canada, but some costs add nothing to positive outcomes.

The first economic benefit of our medicare system is that we have administrative overhead costs under control. We have one organization in each province that provides insurance coverage, not dozens or hundreds, as in an American state. We do not have the elaborate and costly processes that private insurers need to rate the risk of people or groups.

Think for a moment about private car insurance and the different premium structures for young, old, men, women, experienced and accident-prone drivers. We do not require the intensive control systems private insurers use to monitor premiums and set payment schedules. Simply put, we do not spend as much on overhead.

The relative difference in spending between us and our neighbour to the south saves our economy $30 billion a year. That is why we have large employers, seniors, working people, and health activists warning against the erosion of medicare. They know that costs will increase significantly with a two-tier system. They know another thing: we will all foot the bill.

Hon. members might be interested in another related economic benefit of Canada's medicare system; that is, a better record of controlling costs. Each provincial and territorial government is the predominant buyer of health care in their jurisdiction. This gives them enormous leverage to give the most service at the best price to taxpayers. They can negotiate fee structures and service costs in a

way no private insurer could ever hope to. They can shift spending to achieve more cost-effective outcomes.

In comparison with the public sector record, the private health sector has had little success in cost control. It accounts for more than a quarter of all health spending, and its costs have been growing at more than six per cent per year since 1990. Individuals and insurers in the private sector have found little leverage to bring these costs under control.

Canadians understand this difference. We have agreed as a country to pool our risk across society. We have agreed to let governments work out fair prices as the buyer on our behalf. The economic benefits of our medicare system are something all Canadians can share. We win in the quality of our health care system, which is second to none in the world. We also win in economic terms.

I am proud to support the passage of Bill C-95, which gives a new name to a department that has been working hard and well for all Canadians.

Canadian Unity November 1st, 1995

Mr. Speaker, Monday's events in Quebec showed us that in fact the glass is half full.

During the past few weeks we have witnessed an outpouring of emotion from Canadians across the country who went from passive observation to active participation in the affairs of their country.

We should all be struck by the depth of their feelings and their willingness and openness to change. This will is generous and the challenge for Parliament is to facilitate the development of this expression of commitment to Canada. As parliamentarians we must strive to nurture and encourage Canadians who want to be involved in the process of reshaping Canada.

Canadians need to be thanked for their willingness and openness to change. They must be valued and implicated in the process of redefining their country.

Petitions October 23rd, 1995

Mr. Speaker, pursuant to Standing order 36, I am pleased to present on behalf of over 100 signators from the the riding of Fredericton-York-Sunbury a petition which deals specifically with the proposal from the interdepartmental committee on household goods to remove services and change the way the federal government purchases moving services by offering all federal government moves to one carrier.

The petitioners pray and call on Parliament to direct the interdepartmental committee to drop the proposal and to work directly with the Canadian moving industry to develop other alternatives to reduce federal expenditures.

Regional Rates Of Pay October 23rd, 1995

Mr. Speaker, it is a pleasure for me to support the motion put forward by my colleague from Dartmouth this morning. As we approach the second anniversary of the election that brought us here, I have come to appreciate the many opportunities available to members in terms of how items are put on the agenda and I realize just how talented the member for Dartmouth is in bringing these items to the attention of the nation. I bring to the attention of the House the credit he deserves on not only this one but on other issues.

Before speaking to what I believe to be the merits of the motion I will address some of the concerns that were raised by colleagues who spoke previously.

In response to the Reform member for Skeena, I think the first argument he made against the motion was on the grounds that we really had to recognize the differences in the cost of living in various places in Canada in terms of remuneration public servants receive. I challenge that on a couple of grounds. The country, the courts, and public sympathy are headed in the other direction. So even in the context of being responsive to the will of the nation, we are heading in another direction.

More appropriate to the political affiliation of the member who made the suggestion, I wonder about the cost of bureaucracy in trying to determine pay packages on the basis of regional costs of living. I believe there would have to be a new department of the cost of living. I cannot see that being consistent with decreasing the cost of governance in Canada. Quite the contrary. That would be a pretty expensive proposition and one I think the member should reconsider in the face of his own party's positions on those issues.

The second issue raised by the member for Skeena and repeated by the member for Joliette had to do with isolation pay and the need to recognize cost of living. I had the good fortune of visiting Iqaluit last fall with the social security review group, and I was shocked at the price of a banana in that community. I reassure both the member for Joliette and the member for Skeena that isolation pay and bonuses related to isolation would not be affected by the intentions of this motion. This would all be a part of job classifications and pay related to job classification and not related to isolation. Hopefully some of their concerns would be reassured by that.

The member for Skeena mentioned that he was fearful that this was the thin edge of the wedge. I agree with the member, but I think we are heading in the other direction. I would turn that metaphor on its head and say quite appropriately that we are heading to the narrow point of the triangle, not to the wide edge of the triangle, and it is just a matter of time.

It should not be surprising that I have fewer exceptions to take with the member for Broadview-Greenwood in terms of his comments, other than whether or not the nation requires national standards, the nation requires national values. Questions of fairness in remuneration speak to the need for a national value in Canada. That value is fairness, which the government has to acknowledge and respect. I say that because this discussion follows the recent debate on Bill C-64 on pay equity. It strikes me that the values behind this motion and that bill are the same. How can the government that supports the notion of pay equity based on questions of gender or minorities continue to support the notion of regional disparities in terms of how much public servants are paid depending on geography?

The other important consideration is the inevitability of this happening anyway. I suppose this would appeal to members represented by the member for Skeena and the Reform Party in terms of the savings involved in doing this as an act of will rather than being forced to do it through the courts with all the costs associated to have these decisions forced upon us through the legal system. It is very important for us to recognize the need to do what ultimately will happen anyway without having to be told to do it.

By way of history, the previous government reacted to the strike in 1989 in Halifax and Dartmouth by enacting back to work legislation contained in Bill C-49. At that time as part of that back to work legislation a conciliation board was established that concluded that regional rate policies would not be maintained much longer. That conciliation board labelled the policy discriminatory and ordered a new collective agreement to bring east coast and west coast workers into parity.

We have already been told by a process the previous government put in place to deal with this inequity. It is long overdue that we do that. It is an important opportunity for this government to meet the commitments that were made to act in a fashion that is consistent with what we said in opposition. At that time many members said these were discriminatory practices.

As I said before, this government is promoting equity in terms of pay regardless of gender and ethnic background. It would only be fair to eliminate discrimination based on geography as well.

I will speak for a moment on the question of where this regional pay package idea came from. I do not know for certain but I assume there are a couple of historical factors that come into play here. My sense is that at the time these pay regimes were affected jobs were probably less well defined. Consequently what one did in terms of a job classification in one part of Canada was probably quite different from what one did as a part of a job classification in another part of Canada.

In the course of collective bargaining over the years job descriptions and categories have become much tighter. The level of degree that was contained in the practice and exercise of some of these jobs has probably diminished significantly. The argument that might have been in place at one time no longer exists. I also think that at the time these regional pay packages were put in place there was a lot less mobility of labour. We are obviously moving across the country today with a good deal more frequency and efficiency than we did some time ago.

The most important reason to support the motion by the member for Dartmouth is it reflects Canadian values. Many Canadians have lost their faith in this fine institution and in governance in general because they see things that they think should be fixed and which do not get fixed as quickly or as efficiently as they perhaps should. This is one of those things. People look at this and say if you are

doing the same job it seems only fair that you should be paid the same, wherever you do it in Canada. We have to respond to those common sense arguments to win back the trust and confidence of those Canadians who watch every day as we make decisions.

There was a point made that perhaps in the low wage areas a higher pay scale that would reflect the national number would have the effect of making it difficult for the local communities to compete with the public service in terms of pay packages. If 100 per cent of the employees of the public service were affected then an argument might be made for that, although I would not accept it. However, given the fact that it is only 9 per cent of the public service left, it does not strike me that they should be the people who bear the brunt of that argument.

I encourage my colleagues to support the motion put forward by the hon. member for Dartmouth. It is important to recognize that federal government employees are competent, efficient, hard working and deserving of the same compensation regardless of where they live.

Employment Equity Act October 6th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, I will be very brief.

The Reform Party was born of a sense of feeling excluded from the power and the decisions made in the country. If I am wrong in that regard I would certainly want it be pointed out. However, it is my understanding that essentially the Reform Party was born of the notion that the west was feeling left out and did not feel it was part of it.

That sentiment should cause the member to understand exactly the principles behind the bill. The desire to allow all people to feel a part of the system of government and so on is very important. Members representing that party opposite should be the first people to understand that notion, given where they were born.